We need a "union rep" in Canada as well :-) Ty
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:34 PM, David.M Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I feel that I should "appoint" that position... > > David M Clark > Remedy Programmer/Analyst > > >>>> Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/6/2008 12:32 PM >>> > So we have a pres, who will be the Treasurer. > > On 8/6/08, Tim Widowfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> ** Cool. Then when the Pinkertons come to bust us up, you can fend > them >> off while we run away! >> >> --Tim >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: David.M Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:06:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [ARSLIST] Salary in Bay Area >> >> I've had my nose broken a few times... can I be a union "boss"? >> >> David M Clark >> Remedy Programmer/Analyst >> >> >> >>> Howard Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/6/2008 11:02 AM >>> >> Susan, >> >> The first item we need to address is how much we want to charge for >> dues. >> >> hbr >> >> On 8/6/08, Susan Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > ** I like that ... an activist in the group !!! >> > >> > Susan >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Howard Richter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> ** Maybe we need to form a union to keep our rates up to what > they >> should >> >> be. >> >> >> >> hbr >> >> >> >> >> >> On 8/6/08, Tortolero, Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> ** >> >>> >> >>> Shawn, Right ON!.... >> >>> >> >>> Remedy peeps…good Remedy peeps should NOT devalue themselves…if > you >> are >> >>> willing to take 50-60 an hour you are screwing everyone by > giving >> away your >> >>> HARD earned money and devaluing our profession. The bar should > be >> set at 100 >> >>> minimum an hour. And Shawn is COMPLETELY correct about that 15%, > in >> fact I >> >>> go 12% tops. Anything more then that and you are getting > robbed. >> It's not >> >>> like we don't get 10-15 calls a week with job offers…we are > needed >> and will >> >>> be needed...set the standard, maintain the standard. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thank you, >> >>> >> >>> -j >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> *Joe Tortolero* >> >>> >> >>> *Remedy Consultant* >> >>> >> >>> *Desk - 561-682-2780* >> >>> >> >>> *Cell - 561-665-1363* >> >>> >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ** >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------ >> >>> >> >>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Pierson, Shawn >> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:11 PM >> >>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> >>> *Subject:* Re: Salary in Bay Area >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> That's strange but it makes sense that the bay area would pay > less >> than >> >>> the rest of the country due to an overabundance of Remedy > people. >> You can >> >>> probably get six figures as a Remedy developer with more than > ten >> years just >> >>> about anywhere in the U.S. if you are working on ITSM, although > no >> person >> >>> with that much experience should even be supporting a home grown >> system for >> >>> less than $80k/year anywhere. You can get that much at a job in >> Oklahoma or >> >>> Ohio, which have much lower costs of living than the bay area. >> It's all >> >>> about supply and demand though, so if you want to be paid well > you >> have to >> >>> live somewhere that has very few Remedy people available, and a > lot >> of >> >>> companies making decent money so they can pay a decent salary > too. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> As far as consulting, with 10 years of experience I would > suggest >> looking >> >>> at a minimum of $125/hour. I know BMC charges twice that for > their >> senior >> >>> people, and a lot of the major Remedy consulting firms charge >> similar >> >>> rates. Any consulting firm that keeps more than 15% or $15/hour >> from your >> >>> rate (depending on whether you are making more or less than >> $100/hr) is >> >>> keeping too much. When I first did consulting I was ripped off > a >> few times >> >>> because I went through too many layers, where you hav > e a small >> consulting >> >>> firm taking 15%, who has a deal with a larger consulting firm >> taking 15%, >> >>> who then deals directly with the client. In fact, I remember >> working with a >> >>> guy who was being paid less than $40/hour while the client was >> paying >> >>> $150/hour only because he had three or four consulting firms in > the >> middle >> >>> who each took their cut. When consulting, always ask who the >> direct client >> >>> is, and if they refuse to tell you or if they tell you the name > of >> another >> >>> consulting company, don't let them submit your information to > the >> client. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Shawn Pierson >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the > Answers >> Are" >> >>> html___ __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where > the >> >>> Answers Are" html___ >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Howard Richter >> >> Re >> d Hat Certified Technician >> >> CompTIA Linux+ Certified >> >> ITIL Foundation Certified >> >> E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/> Profile = >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 __Platinum >> Sponsor: >> >> www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ >> > >> > >> > >> > __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers >> Are" >> > html___ >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Howard Richter >> Red Hat Certified Technician >> CompTIA Linux+ Certified >> ITIL Foundation Certified >> E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 >> >> >> > _______________________________________________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >> >> >> > _______________________________________________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org >> Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" >> __Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers > Are" >> html___ >> > > > > -- > Howard Richter > Red Hat Certified Technician > CompTIA Linux+ Certified > ITIL Foundation Certified > E-Mail = [EMAIL PROTECTED] > LinkedIn Profile = http://www.linkedin.com/in/hbr4270 > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" > _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org Platinum Sponsor: www.rmsportal.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"
