Why not St Louis or Kansas City? A nice central location? I understand the point about Vegas being thought of as an "excuse" for a vacation, however, the point of keeping costs down is valid. Almost every hotel in Vegas has cheap rooms. I would think you wouldn't need to be more than a few blocks away from the conference. Of course that is just my opinion.
Brian On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Shellman, David < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I agree. Especially when the request to send some one to Vegas comes > right after the company has had to layoff 200 workers in Pennsylvania, Ohio > or Kentucky because they are closing plants as a result of an economic > downturn. > Dave > ------------------------- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Wireless) > > ------------------------------ > *From*: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > *To*: [email protected] > *Sent*: Thu Sep 25 11:58:55 2008 > > *Subject*: Re: 2008 User World > ** Kelly, it's not so much the cost that can be the concern, but the > location. Often when Vegas is the location, there is an association with it > that makes some management think "why would I spend my budget on this > guy/gal's bachnalian vacation in Vegas?" Trust me, folks in the public > sector will often run into this. > > I love going to the User World, and the last one was in a truly interesting > city! I'd love to see more locations like Vancouver. Sort of off the > beaten convention path. Reasonable in price (although the hotel was pricey, > but the value of the USD wasn't helping that). There are so many smaller > cities in this country that offer wonderful convention facilities and > interesting entertainment venues. Plus they are centrally located! > > How about BUW 2010 - Steubenville, OH? (just kidding)..... > > Cities like Columbus, OH, Indianapolis, IN or one of my personal favorites, > Chicago IL have so much to offer. And the expnese is so much less then the > Miami's of the world.... > > Just an idea. > > Warren > > > On 9/25/08, Shellman, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> ** >> >> How far away from the event are the less expensive hotels? >> >> Miami was going to cost a fair amount more than it did in Vancouver >> because I want the convenience of staying near the conference. >> >> There was a day event in New York last week. Even though it was a day >> event it was held in a hotel that the cheapest room was over 400 a night. >> >> It's not just cost. A couple of responses discussed choice between >> listening to a dry discussion on CMDB or slots. Choice between Configuration >> Management or Blackjack. It can be a perception that it's Vegas and little >> time will be spent at the event. In some cases it's not a misconception >> because folks do use events like free vacations. >> >> Maybe it's just me. I don't go for the glitz. I attend for the technical >> content. >> >> >> Dave >> ------------------------- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (Wireless) >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> *To*: [email protected] >> *Sent*: Thu Sep 25 07:57:52 2008 >> *Subject*: Re: 2008 User World >> >> I don't understand why Las Vegas is extravagant. It has more cheap >> flights to it than about anywhere. It does have expensive hotel rooms but it >> also has very reasonable and yet safe rooms. Go to Travelocity and search >> for 3-5 star hotels for less than $100 a night. I got 85 hits including the >> Luxor, Circus Circus, etc. What am I missing? >> >> Kelly Deaver >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (Yes, I work for BMC. This post reflects the opinions of the poster and >> not the official opinion of BMC) >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: 2008 User World >> From: "Shellman, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<http://tycoelectronics.com/> >> > >> Date: Wed, September 24, 2008 7:40 pm >> To: [email protected] >> >> Vegas could be problematic. Maybe BMC will listen to this before they >> really decide. As others have pointed out, the economy is not in great >> shape. I work for a company that manufacturers connectors for appliances, >> cars, computers, phones, power lines, etc. People are tightening their belts >> and not buying like they did. >> >> It also not just in the US. The events over the last few weeks are >> effected economies through out the world. >> >> In response, Tyco Electronics is looking at ways to tighten it's belt. A >> conference in Vegas when the economy continues to slow down is not a good >> thing. My asking to attend a conference in Vegas may be frowned upon as >> extravagant. >> >> It maybe similar to scheduling a conference in Florida during hurricane >> season and in a hotel that's going to be renovated. In this case the >> conference maybe held but the technical folks can't come because of the cost >> and the glitz in a bad economy. >> >> Then again we may get lucky and the economy pick up. For me it probably be >> an easier sell if it were in San Francisco or Houston. >> Dave >> ------------------------- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (Wireless) >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >> *To*: [email protected] >> *Sent*: Wed Sep 24 19:51:59 2008 >> *Subject*: Re: 2008 User World >> ** Vegas could be problematic.... >> >> You know what they say, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas! >> >> How the heck do we get all of our loot home! >> >> Warren >> >> >> On 9/24/08, Shellman, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> ** Kelly, >>> >>> Thanks for that update. >>> Dave >>> ------------------------- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> (Wireless) >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From*: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) >>> *To*: [email protected] >>> *Sent*: Wed Sep 24 07:47:43 2008 >>> *Subject*: Re: 2008 User World >>> >>> If you want to be kept informed on the saga of User World(s) you have >>> to 'opt in' to get email. This is a requirement to meet the "no spam" type >>> rules. You can do this by filling out this form - >>> http://www.bmc.com/webforms/webforms.cfm?template=3644 >>> >>> Kelly Deaver >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> (Yes, I work for BMC. This post reflects the opinions of the poster and >>> not the official opinion of BMC) >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: 2008 User World >>> From: "Shellman, David" [EMAIL PROTECTED]<http://tycoelectronics.com/> >>> > >>> Date: Tue, September 23, 2008 6:23 pm >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> ** Hmmm. It appears I just got an "official email" from >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] the subject of "BMC UserWorld Miami Reimbursement >>> Process." It details what forms to fill out, where to send the receipts, >>> etc. >>> >>> I spoke with another person that had registered and she was given a >>> reimbursement process 2 weeks ago. >>> >>> Just as FYI, the last paragraph of the "official email" is below: >>> >>> Mark Your Calendars >>> Many of you have been asking, and we are pleased to let you know that >>> UserWorld will be held in October 2009. Look for more details including >>> dates and locations coming soon! >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:*Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Easter, >>> David >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:01 PM >>> *To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> *Subject:* Re: 2008 User World >>> >>> >>> ** FYI - there have been no official communications sent out on this >>> matter. The information here is, at this time, speculation. I have >>> confirmed with the organizers that the information here is *NOT*confirmed >>> at this point. When an official communication goes out, I will >>> certainly again update this community. >>> >>> Not calling anyone a liar - I'm sure some message from someone did go out >>> - but anything sent/received is not conformed and not official.. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -David J. Easter >>> Sr. Product Manager, Solution Strategy and Development >>> BMC Software, Inc. >>> >>> The opinions, statements, and/or suggested courses of action expressed in >>> this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc. My >>> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a >>> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software, >>> Inc. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:*Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Shellman, >>> David >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:22 AM >>> *To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> *Subject:* Re: 2008 User World >>> >>> >>> ** No 2008 BUW. Those that registered are to get refunds. >>> >>> The email I received noted that there will be more information posted on >>> the web site by the end of the week. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:*Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ >>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Rick >>> Cook >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:19 AM >>> *To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> *Subject:* Re: 2008 User World >>> >>> >>> ** So there will be NO 2008 BUW? Or did they say? It is a bit late, I >>> guess... >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Shellman, David < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> ** Just received an update concerning 2008 User World (US version). >>>> Look forward to 2009 User World in Vegas next October. >>>> Dave >>>> Dave Shellman >>>> Phone: (717) 810-3687 >>>> Fax: (717) 810-2124 >>>> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> *Tyco** Electronics* >>>> MS 161-043 >>>> PO Box 3608 >>>> Harrisburg, PA 17105-3607 >>>> >>>> >>>> __Platinum Sponsor: http://www.rmsportal.com/ARSlist: "Where the >>>> Answers Are" html___ >>> >>> >>> >>> __Platinum Sponsor: http://www.rmsportal.com/ARSlist: "Where the Answers >>> Are" html___ __Platinum Sponsor: http://www.rmsportal.com/ARSlist: >>> "Where the Answers Are" html___ __Platinum Sponsor: >>> http://www.rmsportal.com/ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" html___ >>> __Platinum Sponsor: http://www.rmsportal.com/ARSlist: "Where the Answers >>> Are" html___ >>> >>> __Platinum Sponsor: http://www.rmsportal.com/ARSlist: "Where the >>> Answers Are" html___ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren R. 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