I can bet a few beers that there is a filter that has a run if qualification
that makes the XML file tag for that filter run miles towards the right hand
side of the page and that is the one that is causing them not to import.

When I narrowed down to this AL that was causing my problem, I attempted to
export just that one AL, and then re-import it without modifying the XML
file at all and got the same error (Unable to send.)

That's when I noticed that the only difference in that AL compared to the
tons of other AL's that successfully migrated, was the length of the AL
qualification.

Joe

PS: And it took me a day or so to find that out :-) On my first attempt I
thought I fubar'ed my XML def file somehow so took a second export and made
double sure I didn't do anything wrong while editing it, got the same error,
then started chomping the XML def file to bits and pieces importing each
piece at a time, finally till I got the offending AL.. So much FUN!



-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:57 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Interesting "Bug" in 7.1


Joe,

Now that is down right fascinating to me.

We were having problems moving our forms from v6.3 (patch 22 or 25) to v7.1
Patch5 unless we used the XML form of the object file. ( And now I am having
problems trying to get some of the filters to import in the XML form.) I
guess I will try the def file format and see if that works better.

GRRRRR...

In fairness however, we are also moving from Sybase to Oracle at the same
time we are moving from ARS v6.3 to v7.1 and moving from Solaris to Linux
too. So we have stumbled into a few other problems due that those other
layers changing too.

GRRRR..


But thanks for sharing the pain everyone. I now have a new path to test. :)


ccrashh,

By the way... Are you also using Oracle as your RDBMS? The reason I ask is
that 4000 is a special number and we bumped into a problem with a Set field
Qualification trying to search a field that was longer than 4k in length. So
I wonder if your problems are more RDBMS centric than ARS centric. Just a
thought.

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.



On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Joe DeSouza <joe_rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> **
> Wanna know another interesting bug?
>
> Try exporting an AL that has a really long Set Field If qualification as a
> .xml export, and then reimporting it again. The import will fail. I
> experienced that a couple of weeks ago and was beating my brains numb as
to
> why the import was failing on that AL only and not others. And the only
> different thing about that AL compared to any other that exported and
> imported well was that qualification length.
>
> Exporting and importing it as a .def file, it has no problem.
>
> There is nothing wrong with the xml format but yet for some reason the
> import fails. The reason why I wanted a xml export and not a def, is that
> there were some modifications I needed to do on the def file which is
easier
> in the xml format than the def.
>
> Joe
>
> ________________________________
> From: ccrashh <ccra...@gmail.com>
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:08:47 PM
> Subject: Interesting "Bug" in 7.1
>
> If you create a SET FIELDS action in an Active Link on a form with a 0
> byte (unlimited) field using the 6.3 version of the Admin tool (even
> if the server is 7.1), you can cut and paste or type several thousand
> characters (try about 4000).  If you try to do the same thing in an
> Active Link, on the same form and field, with the 7.1 Admin Tool, it
> will not let you cut and paste and/or type more than about 1900
> characters into the SET FIELDS action.  Give it a shot.  Truly fun.
>
> The problem is worse than that....you can import such an Active Link
> onto a 7.1 server, no problem.  You just can't modify the set fields
> itself.
>
> You can't run Remedy Developer Plus from the 7.1 Admin tool against it
> either.  It will hang the minute it hits that active link.
>
> Fun times.  You can imagine the run-around I got from BMC Support.  I
> had to debug and solve this myself.
>
> Now...is this a bug in 7.1 or something BMC/Remedy "fixed" because it
> was "not working correctly" in 6.3?

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