**
I think I remember having heard about something like "ARSystem for
Dummies" some time ago ...
maybe if you google for it ...
but not sure ... maybe I confuse ...
serouche
Rajat Sharma wrote:
**
I think we are going out of
context here
I wanted to know if we have
books in the market so that I can buy and enhance my knowledge
I found couple of books in the
Amazon website
1.Crystal Reports: A Beginner's
Guide by David McAmis
2.Crystal Reports 2008: The Complete Reference (Complete Reference
Series) by George Peck
3.Step-by-Step Guide to Building a CMDB by BMC Software
4.Viewpoint: Focus on CMDB by BMC Software
Any comments on these books ...?
**
Its actually slicker than that. Its basically print on demand. Keeps
inventory and costs lower.
Rick
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From:
William Rentfrow
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:20:39 -0600
To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: Books for Remedy version 6 ,7 and CMDB
Actually....anyone can publish a
book and get it on Amazon. All you need to do is write the book and
then get an ISBN # and the corresponding UPC graphic ($125? - been a
long time since I looked). When your book is printed it must have that
number/graphic on it. Then you just fill out the appropriate paperwork
and asking price, and send two copies to Amazon. They'll list it with
your description and price. They get a cut of the sale - 55% I believe.
That may seem like a lot but
it's substantially better than what large publishers give authors for
each book sold.
If they sell out they will then
re-order from you. I don't know the full details but it seems the way
to go if you're inclined toward self-publishing and do not want to do
the fulfillment part of it.
**
I cannot fault your logic, John. The actual market for any
book dealing with Action Request System must be exceedingly small. And
yet I see books on the market with audiences the must be equally tiny.
For example, how many people in the world actually develop and
administer PeopleSoft applications? Probably a fair number. Now, of
that "fair number" how many are interested in SQR? (So interested that they'd buy a book.) A handful? Maybe 20? OK, 50, tops! But look
at this:
http://www.amazon.com/SQR-PeopleSoft-Other-Applications-Second/dp/1932394001
Now, I happen to know a little SQR because I worked at Brio for
awhile. It's a very esoteric query language. Oh, it's interesting, to
be sure, but why is there a whole book on it? (OK, it's a pretty old
book, but even in 2003 the market must have been a sliver of a sliver.)
I know the technical book publishers are not interested in Remedy. And
I know they have "good reasons" for not persuing the ARS market. But
I'd bet you any amount of money if Oracle or PeopleSoft bought AR
System from BMC, there'd be at least 5 titles on ARS within six
months. And at least four of them would stink.
John, they don't wanna, 'cause they don't wanna.
--Tim
From:
John <john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday,
February 18, 2009 1:13:13 PM
Subject: Re: [ARSLIST]
Books for Remedy version 6 ,7 and CMDB
**
Also -- I have thought of this too.
Consider how many would actually be purchased?
If BMC says they have 10,000 Sites -- how many customers is
that?
Lets assume 10,000.
Lets assume they all want to buy 1 copy.
That would be 10,000 sales.
How much would somebody pay for that book?
$100?
OK - $1,000,000 in.
However --
cost of publishing
cost of writing
cost of printing
cost of selling
opportunity cost to have gone fishing instead (this is quite
high)
I claim not 10,000
I claim not 100%
I claim not $100.
roughly half of each.
Now we are talking $125,000 in. --- Not enough to do it.
-John
--
John David Sundberg
235 East 6th Street, Suite 400B
St. Paul, MN 55101
(651) 556-0930-work
(651) 247-6766-cell
(651) 695-8577-fax
john.sundb...@kineticdata.com
On Feb 18, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Pierson, Shawn wrote:
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Also,
wouldn’t BMC have to give permission to the authors of such a book?
How would you handle copyright terms, screenshots, etc.? I always
assumed that the reason there are no Remedy books out there is because
Remedy/Peregrine/BMC never gave permission to anyone.
From: Action Request System discussion
list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Wednesday,
February 18, 2009 12:35 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Books
for Remedy version 6 ,7 and CMDB
**
Also, a "Remedy" book would need to cover the
ITSM applications, CMDB, SLM, KM and SRM.
I just don't see a core ARS book being useful enough for the general
reader.
This Remedy book would need to be updated anytime a new version of ARS,
ITSM, CMDB, etc, is released to be useful.
Therefore it would need to be updated every 2 years or so, which makes
the whole project unfeasible.
I guess the only solution is for BMC to provide "more affordable" web
based training...
-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of
William Rentfrow
Sent: Wed 02/18/09 12:53 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Books for Remedy version 6 ,7 and CMDB
Hmmm....I've been looking for a writing project....
The worst part about writing a Remedy book would be bearing the
examination of all of the extremely well-versed people on the list. I
can see it now - "On page 77 you saying 'RUN PROCESS' is useful but you
don't elaborate on the 413 ways it can blow up a server....."
William Rentfrow
Principal Consultant, StrataCom Inc.
wrentf...@stratacominc.com
715-410-8056 C
715-592-5185 O
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