I've been thinking about this sort of thing lately, and I think that it's not 
necessarily a bad move from a corporate perspective, despite my personal desire 
to continue using WUT.

1)  Web services are the present and future of integrations, at least in the 
near term.  Older APIs and such should be replaced soon, if they haven't been 
already.  I'm not saying that this blanket statement will be entirely possible 
right now, as there are many applications that integrate with Remedy through 
APIs and such, but in my opinion it's not good practice to do integrations on 
the user interface anymore if you can help it.

2)  If you look at the overall trends in computing, it seems like every manager 
now operates primarily from a Blackberry/iPhone/Android device.  That trend is 
creeping down to the rank and file employees of a company, and it's easier to 
support the lowest common denominator in computing, which in this case will be 
the handheld devices.  As a result, you're better off developing a web-based 
app that runs on an iPhone as well as IE in Windows.  Also, management doesn't 
look at the user experience as the top priority, but rather how to use the tool 
to make or save money for the company.  A standard UI is going to save money 
over variously installed versions of WUT that require admin rights that are 
more expensive to support.  Do you ever have to tell users, "Hey delete your 
*.ARF and *.ARV files and try again"?  There is a cost associated with that 
which isn't present on the web.

Overall, IT seems to be trending away from executables and towards 
remotely-based applications much like the days of terminals and mainframes.  
Sure, you can run one copy of WUT from a Citrix server, but is that really 
ideal?  I think it's more headache than it's worth.

Thanks,

Shawn Pierson

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Angus Comber
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: AR User Tool Deprecated?

I believe this is true and think BMC are making a big mistake for the
following reasons:

1. The thick client has a client based API, using COM, which is used by many
third party products, including our own, and this capability is really
useful for integration with other products.  All this functionality will be
lost.

2. It is administrators, not users, pushing for web front ends, simply for
deployment reasons.  Users prefer responsive, rich functionality
applications.  Anyone who has used Siebel will know what I mean.

I have no problem with a web alternative but if they go for thin client
only, then that is not good news from my perspective.

Angus

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From: "NNMN" <naveen...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:40 AM
Subject: AR User Tool Deprecated?


> Hi ARSers,
>
> I have been hearing that AR User tool is getting deprected. I have few
> questions on this.
>
> - Is it really going to get deprecated? Is ARS8.0 going to have a thick
> client?
> - If it is just through mid-tier then will the DDE, OLE, macros etc be
> removed from active link actions.
> - Is mid-tier expected to come up with more capabilities so as to tackle
> client dependencies?
>
> Not sure who can answer this. But would also be cool to get your own views
> on this.
>
> Cheers,
> Naveen
>
> -----
> With Warm Regards,
> Naveen
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