We reported that Risk Level/Approval Level defect last year, Tim.   It's 
working as designed!
And the Close buttons are a royal pain.  There is a fix for the missing 
workflow, but when there just isn't a Close button...that's frustrating.

Check out the Object List on the Mid-Tier: no Close, Logout, Home, or New 
Search.  That one drives me up the wall.  To log out, you have to search for 
and open the Home Page, then click Log Out.

Jennifer Meyer
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Powell
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: "Working as designed" type defects

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How about the simple fact that Close buttons and/or links are not always in the 
same location and sometime are not present at all.

In CM, Urgency, Impact and Priority use a scale of 1 - x with 1 being the most 
severe and x being the least severe. But the Risk Level values run 1-x with 1 
being the least severe and x being the most severe. That ISS ticket came back 
to us as "Working as Designed". The reasoning was that a 1-x scale with 1 being 
the least severe and x being the most gave the customer the opportunity to 
"extend" the Risk Level to accommodate custom risk calculations. But if that is 
the true design reason, then my argument is that Priority, Impact and Urgency 
should also be designed that way and also allow that "extension" capability.

I'm going to change the ISS ticket to an RFE and see what happens.
Like you point out, I just want it to be consistent.

Tim

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Meyer, Jennifer L
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:50 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: "Working as designed" type defects

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Guillame, I feel your pain.

I want to respond, not to gripe about the lack of consistency across 
applications, but because I also noted this while testing the ITSM 7.6 
applications.  Tasks perform differently across applications, Problem and Known 
Error have minimal interaction with Task at all, and Saved Searches aren't 
consistent in the consoles.  This is how it's designed, however, and we are 
reporting a large number of other defects, so I'm personally hoping that 
providing consistency across lesser-loved applications is BMC's next focus.

Jennifer Meyer
Remedy Technical Support Specialist
State of North Carolina
Office of Information Technology Services
Service Delivery Division ITSM & ITAM Services
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Guillaume Rheault
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:54 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: "Working as designed" type defects

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 I'm sending this post to the list community to see what is the general feeling 
about issues that BMC Support classifies as "working as designed"
The category of issues I am referring to specifically here is inconsistencies 
in functionality between ITSM modules or within a single specific module.
More specifically, and to name only a few, in ITSM 7.5.1 but apparently still 
present in 7.6.3:

- Assigned group searches in tasks are different than assigned group searches 
in change
- Assigned group searches, change manager group searches, and change 
implementer group searches are different
- Task tab in problem investigation is different than the task tab in the 
incident form

When I raise these issues with BMC support, I get the reply that it's working 
as designed. Well the problem with that, is that customization is required to 
make functionality, and look and feel consistent.
It seems to me that BMC should create a "Design Defect" classification in 
addition to the existing defect classification, which are essentially 
implementation defects. I mean why should I need to create an RFE for something 
that should work consistently in the first place? Seems like "Working As 
Designed" is simply an easy way out of the situation. Quality Assurance 
**should** catch these defects. Is this too much to ask?

A defect is a defect because the customer perceives that as a defect, that 
should be the bottom line. This is not new functionality, only making the 
functionality and user interface work to the way it is expected.

Thoughts?

Guillaume
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