I would look at the number of rows on the heavy hitter forms as well as having 
the DBA possibly doing a reorg on those heavy hitter forms as well as their 
supporting forms.  How ever you look at logs either by what BMC supplies or 
some third party app, I would look at what queries are going through that 
appear to run a while and see if your indexes need to be tweaked.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 09:52
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Performance matrix

Hi L.J.,

We almost agree ;-)

I would recommend using the RRR|Log tool instead for your logfile. It
gives a lot more, but has a small annual subscription fee attached to
it...

        Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

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> Misi,
> I completely agree...turn on API/Filter/SQL logging and run the AR Log
> Analyzer, see where your 'heavy hitters' are and tune them first.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:40 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: Performance matrix
>
> Hi,
>
> Performance may be good, if you look at individual parts, but the design
> seems bad.
>
> You will probably benefit from having less fields in your forms, and split
> the data/functionality into multiple forms. This may be very hard to do
> though...
>
> You may be able to improve things with your current architecture, but you
> have to check what really happens when you login, open your form, and save
> your record etc. Which forms are run, indexes used, filters executed,
> unnecessary set-fields/table-refreshes etc. In other words - Traditional
> performance tuning.
>
> Turn on your log files on and investigate!
>
> http://rrr.se/doc/WWRUG09_RRR_LogFilePerformanceTuning.pdf
>
>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se
>
> Products from RRR Scandinavia (Best R.O.I. Award at WWRUG10):
> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy logs.
> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.
>
>> hi all,
>>
>> I have an completely custom application with about more then 200 forms
>> and
>> 20 heavy forms with around 800 fields on an average on the heave forms.
>> I
>> have concurrent 1300 users who do all kinds of works. Most importantly
>> the
>> AR version is ARS 5.0.1 on Solaris/Oracle with AR and Db on the same
>> machine.
>>
>> Now my question what should be the performance that I should consider as
>> good? How do anyone can decide whats a good performance for this kind of
>> system?
>>
>> Currently we are observing 10 seconds to log in and 45 seconds to open
>> the
>> max heavy form with 1200 fields and 1 minute to save a records in this
>> form
>> at peak usage.
>>
>> What should be the feasible performance improvement that I can expect
>> and
>> work towards?
>>
>> Can anyone shed some light on ARS Performance matrix and how it is
>> calculated?
>>
>> Thanks a lot in advance we are currently in the fire fighting mode on
>> this
>> front.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vikram.
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