Thanks a bunch Jason, adding your ideas as a comment directly on the DN Doc<https://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-16743> .
I meet with Vijai in 6 hours, you'll see progress directly on DN (if you set *Receive Email Notification* on the AR Community<https://communities.bmc.com/communities/community/bmcdn/bmc_atrium_and_foundation_technologies/bmc_remedy_ar_system?view=overview>- bottom-right Actions panel, below the *very busy* WWRUG feed ;-) Matt Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities BMC Software, matthieu_laurenc...@bmc.com Follow me @Matt_L <https://twitter.com/matt_L> Skype: matt.laurenceau On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Jason Miller <jason.mil...@gmail.com>wrote: > ** > A few comments: > #3 One of the gotchas is many times you don't know a field will be used on > multiple forms when you first create it. Some like First Name, Last Name, > Requester Phone, etc will most likely be used on many forms but some are not > so obvious when you start creating a form/application. I have some > forms/apps that were quick solutions that kept growing and lived longer than > I thought they ever would. > > For things like First Name, Last Name, etc, how would we indicate that it > specific to one application (#1)? Do we indicate that it is a shared > element somehow (foundation if you will) not specific to one application? > > #1 In the NOT section: > I agree it is not too important to track who created the field. I have > seen some of the conventions that capture the creator in the field ID > however as time goes on is it really that important who created it? In the > context of sharing applications in the community I think it is pretty > meaningless. I also agree there are other ways to track this if needed. I > have mentioned on the List before that I like to put "Created" in Change > History field of workflow, fields and forms. That captures who and also > the create date, which is not capture anywhere. However we have a Remedy > form for tracking objects as you build/change them that gives us the who, > when and the Change Request ID to provide a reference back to the business > reason for the change (the plan is to integrated it with AR System Version > Control: Object Modification Log to automate some). This form and a Crystal > Reports also gives us the manifest for changes that need to be moved to > live. > > Jason > > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Meyer, Jennifer L > <jennifer.me...@nc.gov>wrote: > >> ** >> >> Thank you for starting the new topic, Matt.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Before we begin develop a standard, let’s address questions regarding the >> relevance of data to be captured in the database id.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Assumptions**** >> >> Given the range of database ids is 600,000,000 to 999,999,999:**** >> >> The first digit may contain the numerals 6-9.**** >> >> The other 8 digits may contain numerals 0-9.**** >> >> 2-3 digits should be allowed for sequential numbering. They are relevant >> to the form, other fields on the form, and duplication across forms.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What data do we want to convey? I think these are the most important >> pieces of data, but I might be wrong.**** >> >> **1. **Application (Asset, Request Mgt, Change, Archive, Custom)**** >> >> **2. **Field Usage (i.e. a zTmp field has vastly different usage >> than a Request ID field. Some forms can hold 3 or 4 Request IDs, and they >> ought to be noted.)**** >> >> **3. **Is it useful to denote fields used on multiple forms?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> What data do we NOT want to preserve?**** >> >> **1. **I don’t believe that the creator of the information is >> particularly important for shared files. Do we want to waste precious >> digits when authoring rights can be captured in Help Text or Change Log?* >> *** >> >> **2. **Same for Field Type. That data is included in the definition >> file. I don’t care whether it’s a character field or an enumerated field, >> but I’d like to know the impact of changing the field.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> How are we able to convey that information?**** >> >> How do we want to organize the information in our allotted 9 digits?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Jennifer Meyer**** >> >> Remedy Technical Support Specialist**** >> >> State of North Carolina**** >> >> Office of Information Technology Services **** >> >> Service Delivery Division ITSM & ITAM Services**** >> >> Office: 919-754-6543**** >> >> ITS Service Desk: 919-754-6000**** >> >> jennifer.me...@nc.gov**** >> >> http://its.state.nc.us**** >> >> ** ** >> >> E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North >> Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties only by an >> authorized State Official.**** >> >> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Matt Laurenceau >> *Sent:* Monday, September 12, 2011 6:03 AM >> >> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG >> *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: "Outside of Reserved Range" warning?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** I have commitment from a manager in BMC Engineering to share ideas (he >> actually proposed his help while looking at ARSList - great!)**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I have drafted something to begin >> with<https://communities.bmc.com/communities/docs/DOC-16743> >> .**** >> >> Please check it out, and share your thoughts.**** >> >> - Add a *Comment *if you want to send a heads-up**** >> - *Edit* the Doc directly (yes, wikipedia-style), should you be able >> to make things progress directly (for example, I asked questions where >> some >> of you may also have the answers)**** >> >> This is a great Use Case showing how powerful the Remedy Developer >> Community is, I'm really excited by this 1st topic.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Take care, Matt**** >> >> Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities**** >> >> Follow me @Matt_L <https://twitter.com/matt_L>**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Jason Miller <jason.mil...@gmail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> ** **** >> >> Joe, you nailed it (although I did get Jennifer's joke too). There are so >> many communities where you can download code/functions/scripts/etc for other >> languages but there isn't one for Remedy; well it is there just not actively >> used in this manner. There are a few apps/utilities on the BMCDN but not as >> many as I think a lot of us would like to see.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Now to be perfectly honest, I have a few utilities that I have been >> meaning to post to the BMCDN for a few years now (the data export one is sad >> without runmacro.exe). We have seen arswiki.org come and go. Axton >> provided the site for years and there just wasn't enough involvement to keep >> the site up (I am guilty too).**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I am fearful that the same will happen with ARInside. I see John making >> updates when he has some time but can it survive as a one or two person >> project? Personally I would love to help out and even installed a compiler >> a while back to work on my limited C++ skills. Years, work, new laptop >> without compiler, and grade school aged kids later I still have not >> contributed any code to the project.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Don't get me wrong, always having sanctioned/paid work (and a family) that >> pushes aside community projects is not a bad problem to have.**** >> >> - Is it that we are all just too busy?**** >> - Is it a ratio thing in that we are such a small community compared >> to Java/C++/HTML/PowerShell/<insert platform of choice> communities that >> we >> just don't have enough people to contribute a decent volume of projects? >> **** >> - Is it that we cannot share what we build because it was done on >> somebody else's time/system?**** >> - Would it help if there was an AR MSDN like subscription that we have >> been asking for for a few years?**** >> >> >> - I think this is related to the somebody else's time/system >> question. I know I can't afford to develop AR Applications without my >> employer's resources (servers, support contract).**** >> - Now with today's virtualization, hosted technologies and the >> Suite Stack Installer it would be easier than ever to provide this >> resource. >> Maybe a downloadable VM appliance (ADDM anybody?). I understand >> there are >> licensing issues with distributing other companies' software >> (Windows/MS >> SQL/Oracle). Maybe it is time for a MySQL version of AR? :)**** >> >> Hopefully now that we have a Community Ambassador we can get some of >> these things moving. ;-)**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Jason**** >> >> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- **** >> >> ** ** >> >> ~ Matt Laurenceau, BMC Software**** >> >> Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities**** >> >> Follow me at @Matt_L <https://twitter.com/matt_L>**** >> >> Skype: matt.laurenceau **** >> >> ** ** >> >> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** >> _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ >> > > _attend WWRUG11 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > -- ~ Matt Laurenceau, BMC Software Senior Community Ambassador, BMC Communities Follow me at @Matt_L <https://twitter.com/matt_L> Skype: matt.laurenceau _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug11 www.wwrug.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
