Thanks very much to all who have responded to my question; I have been able to 
mine substantial useful information out of the discussions.

I am a bit puzzled on one point; and I imagine my puzzlement is only a symptom 
of my lack of familiarity with this whole constellation of topics.

The puzzlement: some responders have referred to "SRM" as if it were somehow an 
optional/competing product, which should be considered as one possible 
alternative, amongst a field of options.

I'm a management-type; I have a development team whom I'm supervising in a 
roll-out of a product we purchased, which I know as "Remedy ITSM Suite." It was 
my impression that what I'm calling "SRM" - in the context of this list, and 
this inquiry - is a standard component of the "Remedy ITSM Suite" product, and 
is the component provided by BMC for users to initiate 'tickets' of various 
types into the Remedy system.

Since I *thought* this was a "Remedy-specific" list, I thought my question, and 
its context, would be unambiguous. But it seems I'm reading about the relative 
merits of competing alternatives, and that (what I think of as) "Remedy/SRM" 
may not even EXIST.  It may be a separate optional product, which may, or may 
not, be a normal part of a "Remedy" (whatever that is - I used to think I 
knew...) installation.

I find myself bewildered and distressed, that I may have a completely erroneous 
concept of the product I *thought* I bought. But since we bought it from a 
3rd-party (not BMC), and the "consultants" (of whom I've seen TOO MANY) are all 
independent contractors working (loosely) for the 3rd-party vendor, I may not 
have accurate information. In fact, I may have nothing but clever 
sales-pitches. Lawyers, politicians, vendors, and consultants... need I say 
more?

I'm not even sure, at this point, what my question is - if I *have* a question.

But I do think I have some direction to share with my developers on how to do 
"SRM - Colors & Branding." And I thank you for that.


Regards,
-dpb-

David Burdette; Assistant Director, Computing Infrastructure Services
University of Florida; Computing and Networking Services
www.cns.ufl.edu<http://www.cns.ufl.edu> : Voice 352.273-1309 : Fax 352.392-1440

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Nathan Aker
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: SRM - Colors & 'Branding'?

**
Let it be noted I was not endorsing SRM over Kinetic, nor the merits of said 
functionality.   I was simply noting an option to investigate in SRM to address 
the question posed.

I personally still find it shocking that it took 3 or 4 major versions of SRM 
to get beyond the 10 question maximum for a service request.  Nevermind the 
incredibly high complexity to capability ratio.  And WHY CAN'T I NEST 
CONDITIONAL QUESTIONS PEOPLE!!!!!!

Nathan Aker
ITSM Solution Architect
McAfee, Inc.

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]<mailto:[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]> On Behalf Of 
John Sundberg
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:32 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: SRM - Colors & 'Branding'?

**



My experience (from what our customers ask for)

Logo swapping and color replacement != branding...


Compare:
http://www.bk.com/
http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/home.html

http://www.homedepot.com/
http://www.lowes.com/



And - not only that -- but the larger the company -- the more 
brands/themes/catalogs they want.

So - not only do they want theming -- they want multi-theming, etc...

So - if you are looking to have a Service Catalog/Request Management 
application actually be an extension of your company -- Kinetic is a good route.

And I get this info -- from the people who already tried to implement the 
alternative.

I have found - the half-life of serious Request Management projects is about 1 
year. (And that is - if they actually get past "launching")

You will find if you are successful or not - in that time frame.

Of which -- when serious customers have finally come to the realization that 
the "bundled" service catalog does not cut the mustard -- then the come to us.

Now of course -- you also get the drag-on of (next version will do X) -- blah 
blah blah...

Kinetic has had theming (proper) since DAY 1...

It was designed for it.





BTW - All the big vendors ITSM suites come with a bundled Request Management - 
of which I find few companies actually like. (I am not just talking about our 
favorite one)




You see that nice shiny floating thing in the water???

It comes bundled with a "treble-hook" -- beware...



-John





On Oct 28, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Nathan Aker wrote:

**
Not sure what version you're on, but look into the "Skin" feature that allows 
you to brand and color SRM forms basically leveraging CSS.  Think it was a new 
feature around about 7.6.03.  Nate.

Nathan Aker
ITSM Solution Architect
McAfee, Inc.
Direct: 972.963.7611
Mobile: 469.644.7402

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]<mailto:[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG]> On Behalf Of 
David Burdette
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:34 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: SRM - Colors & 'Branding'?

**
We're near launch of a new Remedy system. We plan to use the SRM 
("ServiceRequestConsole/enduser") as the 'front door' for all our tickets.

We'd like to be able to do some tweaks on it, to 're-brand' it to look more 
like our other web pages. This would involve such things as logo, colors, 
banner, & footer.

We've asked around and been told the only thing that can be changed is the 
logo-graphic (top-left corner). I just find it difficult to believe that other 
companies aren't doing more in the way of custom 'skins' for the SRM 
user-interface.

Does anyone have any suggestions they can offer regarding how we might 
accomplish this?

Regards,
-dpb-

David Burdette; Assistant Director, Computing Infrastructure Services
University of Florida; Computing and Networking Services
www.cns.ufl.edu<http://www.cns.ufl.edu/> : Voice 352.273-1309 : Fax 352.392-1440


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