I had put in a RFE back in 2010 to change the `! into a "Phase Override" radio 
button, but it was closed.  I had suggested the radio button/dropdown so we 
could override the phase in all directions (I can see times where we would want 
a filter to run in Phase 4, such as if we have to push to on outside system 
after all processing is complete on a record)

Fred

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Rod Harris
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Commit Changes vs PERFORM ACTION APPLY

** Yeah Misi,

I'm a bit surprised that the run process commands have grown so much faster 
than the actions. I guess it's quicker to develop features as Run Process 
commands rather than have dev studio hold our hand and check the syntax and 
context on entry. I know that it wouldn't be practical to expect every run 
process to be implemented as an action but for some of the very common ones it 
would make a lot of sense. A business time command would be nice. The syntax on 
those process commands is darn tricky even for experts. 

The other thing that has surprised me is that the odd `! naming convention for 
overriding filter phasing has survived all these years. Surely it would be much 
nicer to have a simple check box field or something to indicate this. It would 
be easy enough to phase out the old method over time and just auto set the new 
check box if the name ended in `!

I'm not a fan of the mechanics of a piece of code featuring in the name. I 
think it should describe what it does rather than how it does it. If you change 
how it does it then you have to change its name also. In Remedy since the name 
of an active link or filter etc. is the key you have a problem with version 
control if you keep changing the names of things. If you leave the name the 
same despite changing how things are done then your naming convention becomes 
compromised.

There's a lot I love about Remedy and it does keep getting better but I'd like 
it if these couple of things were improved.

Rod Harris

-----Original Message-----
On 12 December 2011 16:32, Misi Mladoniczky wrote:
Hi,

I definitely vote for Commit Changes!

Why use the ugly Run-Process bla bla bla syntax, when you have an action
that does the same thing?

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-----Original Message-----
> That's a good question Mark. I'm not aware of any differences that would
> make one more efficient than the other. Personally I prefer to use the
> "Commit Changes" as it seems cleaner to use this rather than one of many
> run process commands.
>
> Rod Harris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> On 9 December 2011 04:51, Brittain, Mark wrote:
>>
>> HI All,****
>>
>> Commit Changes vs. PERFORM ACTION APPLY. Is one better to use than the
>> other on ARS 6.3?****
>>
>> I have one active link that populates data from a SQL query and a second
>> active link to commit the changes. These were probably created under ARS
>> 3
>> or 4. The Commit Changes does the job but always looking to smart way to
>> do
>> things.****
>>
>> Thanks****
>> Mark ****
>>
>>
>> *Mark Brittain*
>> Remedy Developer****
>> *NaviSite - **A Time Warner Cable Company*
>> mbritt...@navisite.com****
>> Office: 315-453-2912 x5335****
>> Mobile: 315-317-2897****
>> ** **

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