My recommendation about customizations is to add and not to delete or
disable objects (
http://theremedyforit.com/2012/03/best-practices-for-customizations/ ) So I
continue to recommend to create another last modified by and date fields.

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On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 13:40, John Atherly <
john.athe...@schneider-electric.com> wrote:

> **
> I looked more into this escalation to see what it is doing and what fields
> that it uses and why.  I found a filter (HPD:INC:SetFromResolved_Kickback)
>  that fires when a ticket is reopened that increases the count in the
> Kickback count field. Then on the first of the month this escalation fire
> and reset everything back to zero.  My best guess is that this process is
> used for some out of the box report.   I think I'm going to recommend to
> just disable the escalation.
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>   Subject
> Re: ResetKickbackCount" Escalation question .... out of the box escalation
> seems to be updating every incident older than 31 days
>
>
>
>
> **
>
> I completely agree that bypassing the application layer is never a good
> idea unless absolutely necessary.. the second option of a custom Last
> Modified Date2 set by custom workflow is a better idea as the framework of
> its implementation stays within the applications context.
>
> Direct SQL’s if used, MUST be used CAREFULLY. The only reason I thought of
> it in this case is that I’m almost 100% sure a Direct SQL when used within
> workflow to update a record, does not alter the Last Modified Date or Last
> Modified By field. It just updates what is asked to update and bypasses the
> application layer altogether and does not update these system fields even
> if the SQL was designed to update a AR record.
>
> Out of curiosity (I didn’t have the time to find out the purpose of this
> Escalation), what does it do?
>
> Joe
>
>
> *From:* *Jose Huerta* <jose.hue...@sm2baleares.es>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 12, 2012 7:31 PM
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> *To:* *arslist@ARSLIST.ORG* <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> *Subject:* Re: ResetKickbackCount" Escalation question .... out of the
> box escalation seems to be updating every incident older than 31 days
>
> ** I think that change a set action to a direct SQL to avoid normal ARS
> behavior is a bad practice and you'll pay it at the future.  Jose M.
> Huerta
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> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 21:25, Joe Martin D'Souza 
> <*jdso...@shyle.net*<jdso...@shyle.net>>
> wrote:
> Three may be a workaround provided HPD:INC:ResetKickbackCount does not
> trigger any filters that sets other fields..
>
> Instead of the set field operation use Direct SQL in the Escalation.
>
> Direct SQL's will not touch the Last Modified Date to the best of my
> knowledge. The side effect is that they will not trigger any workflow
> either set for modify action of a filter.
>
> You could try
>
> UPDATE KickBack_Count from HPD:Help_Desk where Entry_ID = "$1$"
>
> z1D Action is a display only field which is set to "RESETKICKBACK", so you
> would need to check all the filters that run on Escalations that get
> triggered on this value of z1D Action, and see if those actions can be
> replicated by direct SQL's too..
>
> That way you could potentially modify the record without touching the Last
> Modified Date.
>
> ALTERNATELY, created a Last Modified Date2 field that gets set on
> Modifications only when the user is not AR_ESCALATOR.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Atherly
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:13 PM Newsgroups:
> public.remedy.arsystem.general
> To: *arslist@ARSLIST.ORG* <arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
> Subject: Re: "HPD:INC:ResetKickbackCount" Escalation question .... out of
> the box escalation seems to be updating every incident older than 31 days
>
> I have a report the looks for all Incidents modified in the last 10 days
> that runs and the escalation called HPD:INC:ResetKickbackCount is killing
> my report since it modifies all incidents.  Does anyone know any thing
> about kick back.
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