David,

If the admin interface displays that the cache has been flushed successfully, which it will if there was no communication between your mid-tier admin client and the mid-tier server, it does not mean the operation as a whole is complete.. That message should have been rephrased something in the lines of "Your request to cache the server has been sent successfully, the operation has begun but not compete. It may take a few minutes to a few hours to complete.."

If you look at the cache directory on the mid-tier server, you will notice the files there continuously growing and new files being created. That is the result of the real caching process which is still work in progress.. When there is no activity in this directory, it is an indication of the operation being complete..

Joe

-----Original Message----- From: David Durling Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 4:32 PM Newsgroups: public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Effects of flushing midtier cache

Good to know, though in our case we have a small installation: just custom AR System forms with up to 60-70 users at a time, and when I've flushed the cache the action only seems to take a few seconds.

The points about production changes are good ones.

Thanks,

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Goodall, Andrew C
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 4:24 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Effects of flushing midtier cache

If you have the full ITSM suite, then in my experience it takes about 1 hour to completely recache (just over 1 GB of cache) and for CPU consumption to fall
back within normal range.
That is not a "brief" disruption :)


Regards,

Andrew Goodall
Software Engineer 2 | Development Services |  jcpenney . www.jcp.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe Martin D'Souza
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Effects of flushing midtier cache

When would you need to flush cache? The obvious answer is when there is a
workflow change on production.. Changes to workflow are done whenever
there is need for code change for enhancement or bug fixes.. The general
industry practice is to manage these changes in a change window, where
there is a

scheduled outage, which is typically scheduled on weekends or the least
productive hours of an organization. So cache should be flushed during these
changes.

That being said, there may be emergency changes that were a result of a part
or whole system being rendered unusable pending that change. On such an
event it would be ok to flush your cache after fixing whatever the
problem/bug/enhancement was.

Yes flushing cache during production hours may cause a brief negative impact
on users using the system at the time of the change.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: David Durling
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:48 PM Newsgroups:
public.remedy.arsystem.general
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Effects of flushing midtier cache

Hi,

I'm one of those that has found it necessary to use the "flush cache"
button
in the mid tier config when sometimes certain changes aren't picked up at
the regular cache check interval.

Do you all consider a flush of the mid tier cache to be unintrusive - something that can be done during production hours? Or is it something that should be
done off-hours?

On our server I don't notice performance issues in using it, and in what

little testing I've done, user sessions seem to be uninterrupted. (I'm not sure
about floating users on the web, though - if there's anything to consider
there.)

I'm on ARS 7.5 patch 007 with mid tier 7.5 patch 007 with apache/tomcat.

Thanks,

David

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David Durling                  durl...@uga.edu
Enterprise IT Services
University of Georgia

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