For whatever my 2 cents is worth, I used DSO to transfer the data (as an 
independent copy).  Seemed to work pretty well - of course as with any 
solution, you'll need to go through the pain of identifying any mapping issues, 
validation, etc.  Just something that worked for me.  

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From: "Brian Pancia" <panc...@finityit.com>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:40:53 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrade from 7.1 to 7.6.04

** Tauf, 

RKM is the one piece that scares me a little.  I've been trying to search 
various threads on the upgrade, because I know there are several out there.  
I'm hoping more and more people have started going down this path.  Our tried 
and true method has always been to move customizations over and then data, 
which depending on the versions becomes a mapping nightmare.  We actually used 
AIE in the past for an upgrade, which was interesting.  For this upgrade we've 
migrated a lot of the foundational data over, which has caused many headaches.  
I'm hoping to start incorporating some of the other technologies in the upgrade 
process.  Hopefully the other technologies can help streamline the process.  
What I need to start doing is saving a vm of each version, so in the future I 
can test various upgrade scenarios out.  I've done a ton of upgrades, but 
unfortunately it is never the same combination of versions.  Thanks again for 
the info on RKM. 

Brian 



On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Tauf Chowdhury < taufc...@gmail.com > wrote: 


** For your question: Since there are drastic differences for RKM between 7.1 
and 7.604 will DDM and RRRChive work or will it be a headache regardless? 

Within RKM 7.6.4 is an import tool which will convert articles from older 
versions to the new system. If I remember correctly, you can only move 
"Published" articles. Everything in Draft will have to be left behind. You 
should set a drop dead date for getting articles published in  your old system. 
I also remember breaking out the import into different types such as Referece, 
Known Errors, Solutions, How-To, etc... This allows you to process chunks of 
data as opposed to the whole thing. This is also because you may notice some 
articles failing and you will have to comb the error logs to find out why. I 
remember there were also some bugs which may/may not be addressed by Sp3 and 
Sp4. One such bug was if the old article's title had an extension in it.. like 
"Article1.doc" was the name of the article, this would bomb out the article 
conversion tool. The .file extension would throw off whatever mechanism it uses 
to parse the .xml files from the old RKM system. Another bug, which again, not 
sure if it is fixed or not, was that you would lose audit and article history 
from the old records. 



On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Brian Pancia < panc...@finityit.com > wrote: 


** These are the steps we typically take, but for major version upgrades 5x to 
6x or 6x to 7x.  In that case it is usually best just to bring in the old data 
as archive data and start fresh.  For this upgrade the customer wants 
everything brought over.  What are the limitations with DDM besides deletes?  
Are there workarounds to these limitations?  It looks like people have had a 
lot of success with RRRChive.  Is RRRChive difficult to setup and configure for 
this type of upgrade or is it better suited for bring subsets of data between 
systems?  Since there are drastic differences for RKM between 7.1 and 7.604 
will DDM and RRRChive work or will it be a headache regardless? 



Thanks, 

Brian 





On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Goodall, Andrew C < ago...@jcp.com > wrote: 


** 



We are on 7.5 migrating to 7.6.04 next weekend – God willing J 

  

I would recommended - Move customization, import clean foundation data, leave 
old record data – start with new record data. 

  

If old record data is a must have, then there are limitations with DDM  - I 
don’t recommended it, primarily it does not recognize deletes, and ITSM uses 
delete operations for many functions that will not be picked up. 

  

Global search / FTS is a complete waste of time and a big headache – it is over 
sold as a feature, in my view it is only beneficial for searching RKM data 
where it actually uses a boost relevancy. 

  

Regards, 

  

Andrew C. Goodall 

Software Engineer 

Development Services 

ago...@jcpenney.com 

jcpenney 

6501 Legacy Drive 

Plano, TX 75024 

jcp.com 

  


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arslist@arslist.org ] On Behalf Of Brian Pancia 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 10:23 AM 
To: arslist@arslist.org 
Subject: Upgrade from 7.1 to 7.6.04 

  

** 



We are in the process of upgrade 7.1 to 7.604 with all the ITSM apps and some 
minor customizations.  

  

There are a few paths we are trying: 

  

-           move customizations over and migrate data over to new system 

-           use the Delta Data Migration Tool and a staging server as outlined 
in the BMC whitepaper 

-           move customizations over and use RRRChive to migrate data over 

  

Has anyone else attempted this upgrade?  What path did you chose?  Are there 
any lessons learned or recommendations? 

  

Thanks, 

  

Brian 

  

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