Not really.

It sank - because it filled with water. (water pumps were not appropriate
size)

Because the welds were not strong enough. (needed better welding technology)

Which were used instead of double walls. (invented later)

But the rudder was too small to miss the iceberg, couldn't turn fast
enough. (bad engineering)

But the people trained were not good at spotting icebergs at night.
(training)

Chose to go at night (decision)

Went too fast (pride)

etc…


The Titanic sinking is a "famous" root-cause problem.

(Many people blame the iceberg -- but -- other things failed first, and
other things failed later)

Again -- any one of those could have avoided the sinking.

-John


On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:41 AM, richard....@bwc.state.oh.us <
richard....@bwc.state.oh.us> wrote:

> **
>
> Isn’t the “root cause” of the Titanic sinking the “Hit Iceberg”?
>
> The occurrence of any of the other factors didn’t cause the sinking
>
> in and of themselves.
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *John Sundberg
> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2012 11:28 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: Good article on Root Cause
>
>
>
> **
>
> I liked the article - because it challenges a common accepted idea
> "root-cause" -- there is never "one" root cause -- there are many.
>
>
>
> Fire = heat, fuel, oxygen (take away one -- you don't get the result)
>
>
>
> The Titanic sank -- why?
>
>
>
> Rudder too small
>
> Lookout people not properly trained
>
> Not double skinned walls
>
> Can't rivet on curved metal
>
> Hit ice-berg
>
> Went too fast
>
> Travel at night
>
>
>
> Any one of those could have "prevented" the issue.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Root-cause should be relabeled "Contributing factors"  (Or something like
> that).
>
> (and it should be a list :) (or a table in Remedy talk))
>
>
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM, John Sundberg <
> john.sundb...@kineticdata.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.theitsmreview.com/2012/12/railways-derailments/
>
>
>
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