Howard,
I'm typically on the same side of the fence as you.  For more years than I
care to count I know more about Remedy than anyone I get on the other end
of the email, and I have come to not even contact them for things that
aren't 'core' related or to file defects, but I have been in direct contact
with some upper level support people as of late.  They are actively trying
to fix the problems that we have, and seem to truly care.  Two days ago I
logged a ticket regarding 8.1 overlays in an upgrade scenario, and had a
response in less than 3 hours suggesting a WebEx...today I got around to
doing that WebEx and he had his team lead on the phone with us.  It took 2
hours to get fixed, but got fixed in a single call and required some
advanced DB level work....so while I still don't go to them unless I can't
solve it (which isn't often honestly with personal experience, ARSList, and
BMC Communities at hand)....the last few times I have contacted them, the
experience seems better than it was for many years.


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Howard Richter <hbr4...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Shawn,
>
> Since I have worked with Remedy since 1996, I can say that its has been a
> downward spiral since Peregrine acquired Remedy. The initial Remedy support
> was great, then when Peregrine fired most of the Remedy team it was for
> (please fill in the blank).
>
> When BMC picked up Remedy, things did get better (not as good as it was
> but better). However, the spiral started again. The first few years of BMC
> it did get better, then the move to off shoring support (with not enough
> training of the staff) and cost cutting. Down it went.
>
> Now a days I am not sure what is going on. I wonder if the head of
> support, has ever supported any customer or even answered a support call.
>
> When I know more than the level 2s or 3s, something is wrong. I am unsure
> why they cut so many old timers, but my guess it’s a money issue.
>
> As far as the support provided by other companies, they all have some good
> people and not so good people. However, I expect that the level 2s and
> higher to know more about the system they support and have the ability to
> help with the odd issues.
>
> Sorry for the rant, but I expect good support when I pay good money for
> it. And lately you cannot use "Good support" and "BMC" in the same
> sentence.  Which is very sad for all of us in the world of Remedy.
>
> Hbr
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 12:15 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> We have SAP (and Oracle eBusiness) within my organization, and I haven't
> heard any unusual complaints.  Is it worse than BMC's, "Send us the same
> log files you already sent us so we can ask you for new log files of the
> same thing next week, then we'll close the ticket out for being too old"
> customer service?  I haven't interacted with BMC Support for a while so
> maybe I'm being unfair, but it often seemed like they just wanted to waste
> your time and hope you solved the problem on your own.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Pierson
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Hulmes, Timothy CTR MDA/ICTO
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:04 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> The only thing I will add about the SAP discussion is, have you ever dealt
> with support from SAP?
>
> Tim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:42 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative
> thing in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be
> swallowed up inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken
> Oracle to combine the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products
> directly competing?)  I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes
> up, or some other unknown odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be
> an opportunity for Remedy to be implemented in shops that may not have a
> good ITSM solution but already have installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever
> hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a pessimistic scenario it doesn't
> seem too bad to me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Pierson
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:
>
> - Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units
> - Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
> - They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone
> who can use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be
> involved)
> - They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the
> newly private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.
>
> So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since
> it will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
> Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are
> coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management
> technology to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the
> Tivoli product line.
> Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the
> financials yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the
> Enterprise, that's Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require
> investment and innovation (this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)...
> and an AppExchange like community (this group) to develop new offerings
> that are needed to compete with ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center,
> Facilities Management, etc...).  This will require some heavy ARsystem work
> as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for the cloud.
>
> Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS
> capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price
> point.
>
> The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to
> become another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle
> EBS).
>
> However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some
> point with new ownership.
>
> Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic!
>
>
>
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>
> Lee Cullom | Northcraft Analytics
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jesse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:29 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> Depends on your definition of "successful" Bain makes money for stock
> holders ... yes successful company??? well....
>
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