I don't know, a developer and even a consultant should try and learn new
stuff every day. Maybe at 50 the flame is gone, but we can't rely on a
single vendor for our careers on the long term, can we ?


On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net> wrote:

> Unless off course the plan is to cash the cow while it still alive and
> well with a who cares what happens to it after you get your money kind of
> an attitude..
>
> I, just like you, am hoping to not have to learn new tricks either for at
> least as long as another decade.
>
> Unless that trick happens to be around the Remedy Developer Studio as that
> might give Jason, Rod and I, some more material to present at the RUG :)
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Howard Richter
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:02 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> Dan,
>
> What all of my business classes and reading of the Wall Street Journal
> have taught me is that you need to have the plans in place before you make
> an offer on a company.
>
> So I am sure that they had the plans drawn out of what they will be doing
> with Remedy and the other pieces of BMC, before they made the first offer.
>
> And if Oracle was part of it, they reached out to them as well (either
> directly or indirectly).
>
> I just want Remedy to be around for another 10 or so years, then I can
> retire and not need to learn something new. Its true what they say you can
> teach an old dog (or in this case Gator) new tricks.
>
> Have a great weekend,
>
> hbr
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of arslist
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:20 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> I'll pretend it is Friday: Oracle World is coincidentally the week before
> WWRUG13. They could announce there and then everyone stays for a second
> week.
>
> From what I read, the initial deal should close just around the time we
> hold our conference, so unless they are working the selling parts of BMC in
> the meantime, it is going to be 2014 before any of that happens, or does
> Bane, I mean Bain, have a track record of making these decisions quickly
> and before the deals close?
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn
> Sent: May 9, 2013 8:42 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative
> thing in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be
> swallowed up inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken
> Oracle to combine the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products
> directly competing?)  I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes
> up, or some other unknown odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be
> an opportunity for Remedy to be implemented in shops that may not have a
> good ITSM solution but already have installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever
> hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a pessimistic scenario it doesn't
> seem too bad to me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Pierson
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?
>
> Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up:
>
> - Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units
> - Mainframe, Service Management, etc...
> - They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone
> who can use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be
> involved)
> - They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the
> newly private BMC that needs to invest in ESM.
>
> So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since
> it will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools.
> Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are
> coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management
> technology to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the
> Tivoli product line.
> Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the
> financials yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the
> Enterprise, that's Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require
> investment and innovation (this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)...
> and an AppExchange like community (this group) to develop new offerings
> that are needed to compete with ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center,
> Facilities Management, etc...).  This will require some heavy ARsystem work
> as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for the cloud.
>
> Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS
> capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price
> point.
>
> The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to
> become another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle
> EBS).
>
> However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some
> point with new ownership.
>
> Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic!
>
>
>
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> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jesse
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:29 AM
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>
> Depends on your definition of "successful" Bain makes money for stock
> holders ... yes successful company??? well....
>
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