Joe,

Not sure how much money you can make playing the Ukulele.  Back in the 70's, 
Tiny Tim seemed to be able to make a living off playing one.  ;>)

Dave

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Joe D'Souza
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:32 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

I'm not even that close to retirement but for me I would like to not spend a 
lot of time trying to learn something new that would sustain my living, rather 
spend that time doing things I enjoy - lately its been photography once again - 
I used to be into it a long time ago until DSLR's killed the fun..

Another toy I have been increasingly become interested in is a Ukulele.

I can't imagine having to go through a significant amount of time not having 
time for things like that just because you need to learn something new to do 
for a living..

-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of pritch
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:23 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

When you get to within 5 years or so of retiring, you certainly want to!  We 
'old dogs' that are up there and close to leaving the work force are not real 
interested in learning new tricks.  If we need to in order to be 'rewarded' we 
will, but the rewards are increasingly less interesting.  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sylvain YVON" <sylvain.y...@gmail.com>
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:33:53 AM
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ?

** 
I don't know, a developer and even a consultant should try and learn new stuff 
every day. Maybe at 50 the flame is gone, but we can't rely on a single vendor 
for our careers on the long term, can we ? 




On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Joe D'Souza < jdso...@shyle.net > wrote: 


Unless off course the plan is to cash the cow while it still alive and well 
with a who cares what happens to it after you get your money kind of an 
attitude.. 

I, just like you, am hoping to not have to learn new tricks either for at least 
as long as another decade. 

Unless that trick happens to be around the Remedy Developer Studio as that 
might give Jason, Rod and I, some more material to present at the RUG :) 

Joe 



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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Howard Richter 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:02 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

Dan, 

What all of my business classes and reading of the Wall Street Journal have 
taught me is that you need to have the plans in place before you make an offer 
on a company. 

So I am sure that they had the plans drawn out of what they will be doing with 
Remedy and the other pieces of BMC, before they made the first offer. 

And if Oracle was part of it, they reached out to them as well (either directly 
or indirectly). 

I just want Remedy to be around for another 10 or so years, then I can retire 
and not need to learn something new. Its true what they say you can teach an 
old dog (or in this case Gator) new tricks. 

Have a great weekend, 

hbr 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of arslist 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:20 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

I'll pretend it is Friday: Oracle World is coincidentally the week before 
WWRUG13. They could announce there and then everyone stays for a second week. 

From what I read, the initial deal should close just around the time we hold 
our conference, so unless they are working the selling parts of BMC in the 
meantime, it is going to be 2014 before any of that happens, or does Bane, I 
mean Bain, have a track record of making these decisions quickly and before the 
deals close? 

Dan 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn 
Sent: May 9, 2013 8:42 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

I'm curious, why would Remedy being sold to SAP or Oracle be a negative thing 
in your opinion?  I think it's big enough that it wouldn't be swallowed up 
inside of one of their applications (how long has it taken Oracle to combine 
the eBusiness Suite with PeopleSoft despite the products directly competing?)  
I can see if support deteriorates, maintenance goes up, or some other unknown 
odd factor, but it seems to me like it might be an opportunity for Remedy to be 
implemented in shops that may not have a good ITSM solution but already have 
installs of SAP, Oracle, or whoever hypothetically buys Remedy.  If that's a 
pessimistic scenario it doesn't seem too bad to me. 

Thanks, 

Shawn Pierson 
Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: 
arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Lee Cullom 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:07 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

Since it's incredibly fun to speculate on this situation, I'll offer up: 

- Bain will look at the profitability of the various pieces/business units - 
Mainframe, Service Management, etc... 
- They'll tear out the ugly pieces and get them in the hands of someone who can 
use them (Elliot's involvement indicates that Compuware might be involved) 
- They'll take the profitable pieces and put probably keep them with the newly 
private BMC that needs to invest in ESM. 

So, I'm thinking... Patrol and it's ilk will end up with Compuware since it 
will give them a larger stack of monitoring tools. 
Mainframe/Batch Management - IBM?  That would make sense.  The new Z's are 
coming... sure would help to pick up some nice new batch management technology 
to go with that shiny new hardware and make it part of the Tivoli product line. 
Service Management - BMC grew the business significantly (per the financials 
yesterday)... and they need to transition to PaaS (for the Enterprise, that's 
Remedy) to grow dramatically.  That will require investment and innovation 
(this is an optimistic scenario for ARlist)... and an AppExchange like 
community (this group) to develop new offerings that are needed to compete with 
ServiceNow (such as HR Call Center, Facilities Management, etc...).  This will 
require some heavy ARsystem work as well (go Doug!) to make it MORE ready for 
the cloud. 

Remedyforce is the SaaS offering for small mid-size with the inferior PaaS 
capabilies of Salesforce.com (proprietary Apex coding) and different price 
point. 

The pessimistic scenario is that Remedy gets thrown o SAP or Oracle to become 
another app that is part of those gianormous suites (like Oracle EBS). 

However, this much is certain.  There are going to be changes at some point 
with new ownership. 

Now, please continue the speculation... This is a fun topic! 



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arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] On Behalf Of Jesse 
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:29 AM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: Re: huh? financial news for bmc ? 

Depends on your definition of "successful" Bain makes money for stock holders 
... yes successful company??? well.... 

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