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Speaking of Unisys folk... my topic just got accepted mid-day on Monday. See you there!

Kelly Deaver
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Subject: Re: ENGAGE
From: Lynn Larsen <lynn_lar...@mmi.net>
Date: Mon, August 04, 2014 10:04 am
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

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So LJ is going… aside from the Unisys folks that we know will be there, who else WILL be attending from our string of conversation here??
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 9:00 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
 
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Apparently...the process took a bit longer than anticipated....one of my two topics got accepted, so it appears I WILL be attending Engage this year :)
 
It appears that the content of sessions has shifted a bit in the last week.  I reported 120 at the end of last Monday.  As of this exact moment, there are only 102 active sessions, 41 are Remedy related, 11 by non BMCers, and 4 are technical.
 
So, the numbers are shifting a bit....but my topic isn't in that list yet, but it titled 'Remedy Java API – Basic Components' where I plan on discussing how the API is structured, how the objects relate to what you see in Remedy Dev Studio as well as Mid-Tier, and how to manipulate your Remedy system through the API to get the best out of it. :)...
 
I'm hopeful at this point that Engage is morphing into something a bit more acceptable to the many technical resources we have here on the list.
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, LJ LongWing <lj.longw...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess the best 'rejection letter' you can possibly get is the accepted list coming out and not being able to find yourself anywhere on there.
 
Looking through the sessions, I see there are 120 sessions total.  46 are 'Remedy' related, that's ITSM or ROD (38%) in some way or another.  Of those only 12 are not being done by BMCers (10%).  4 of those are listed as 'Technical' (3%).  All 4 of them are directly related to ITSM (3 SRM, 1 CMDB).  Nothing that's directly related to Remedy as a development platform, but as a platform to sell their OOTB tools....part of me is disappointed, but not surprised.
 
Both of the topics I submitted were of a technical nature, relating to Remedy, not ITSM...so, I guess that's likely why neither topic was selected for presentation....
 
and due due to the fact that I was counting on not paying the admission fees, I'm not going to be able to justify the expense to attend this year...so...maybe I'll do them anyway, but post them on my site instead so everyone can benefit instead of just the ones that attend Engage...who knows.
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Jason Miller <jason.mil...@gmail.com> wrote:
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By doing our own thing we would simply be creating an overlay on ENGAGE.  Once we create the overlay we can customize and changes by BMC won't have an impact.  Except if they delete one of us in base, that will have an impact on the overlay.
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Not if you do it from a hotel room though? I'll pitch in for a suite. We can set up a google hang out and a live tweet session. 
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:
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Yeah I proposed this... Somekind of "genius bar" or something, maybe panel like, or small breakouts or something...
Could have been setup like a "mini community onsite" using Matt for this...

Maybe we could squat the booth location for this when it's not attended? If it's like wwrug, it's just opened for lunch / not a long time, we could use the place to do some small groups about a theme or something?

So, a mix between the "bird & the feathers", "genius bar", "community" and whatever?

We could even stream it live on the net so the others could see it (that could be a problem with BMC rules though).

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:36 AM, Tauf Chowdhury <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I was willing to sponsor a technical/learning lab at the conference. Reached out to numerous people. Deaf ears. Oh well... I'm still going. Love networking (by networking I mean drinking) with you guys if you decide to go.
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Tauf Chowdhury <taufc...@gmail.com> wrote:
In browsing through the sessions and speakers, the title of unnamed speaker pretty much sums up my assessment of the catalog: Lead Technical Marketing Consultant
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM, laurent matheo <lm...@me.com> wrote:
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The evening is still there, Tuesday from 6 to 8 PM:
http://www.eventmgmt.aimia.com/events/bmc-engage-2014/custom-20-2bc888d975f2496db5d3f819b9735209.aspx

But that's weird... Since breakouts continue from 6 to 9 PM on tuesday... So or you go stalk the Engineers (and potentially miss 2 breakouts), or you attend the breakouts (and miss the candy)?

On 29 Jul, 2014,at 01:26 AM, Rick Cook <remedyr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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And with so many evening sessions, where does the Evening with Engineering or the other evening activities go?  Will they even have them?
Rick
On Jul 28, 2014 4:24 PM, "Jason Miller" <jason.mil...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Not impressed.  My first impress is welcome back BMC Marketing World.  We haven't missed you all these years.  Maybe I need to just let it soak in for a day or two?.?.?.
 
Unless I am overlooking something it seems there are very few presentations by customers.
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Sanford, Claire <claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
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Just shaking my head…
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of laurent matheo
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 5:32 PM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
 
 
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On 29 Jul, 2014,at 12:25 AM, "Sanford, Claire" <claire.sanf...@memorialhermann.org> wrote:
You are certainly trusting Terry!
 
I’ll wait for the agenda and hope they extend the early bird rate.   I can see it now…

ME:  Hi Mr. Director, please spend thousands of dollars for me to be gone for almost a week for a conference where we have no idea what the content is.  There is an early bird discount!!!

DIR:  Come back when you have an agenda and a firm grasp on what you sessions are going to attend AND how much you are going to spend.
 
ME:  Big Sigh…
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Tauf Chowdhury
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:52 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
 
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Is that like the "good faith" deposit at a car dealer? Say goodbye to that $75! Hehe

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2014, at 5:49 PM, Terry Bootsma <tboot...@objectpath.com> wrote:
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I believe early bird pricing expires July 31st.   So, if the agenda is out today or tomorrow, that is just "under the wire".
 
However, I had to make a call last week,  so I registered and paid for the conference with the understanding that I could de-register up to a certain date with a $75.00 "admin" fee.  Well, we'll see about that.  :-)
 
Terry
 
 
 
 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Lynn Larsen
Sent: July-28-14 5:03 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
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I’m glad I’m not alone in the trying to get approval for a conference that we have no idea what the content is… There should not be “early bird” pricing that expires before the detailed agenda is even published, in my opinion.
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Sanford, Claire
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
 
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They missed one mark… in order to get a room you have to go through their conference desk.  We are adults.  We should be able to make our own reservations. 

If the conference is more “sales” than technical, there is no way I can get approval.  I’ll be disappointed if they go back to the way it was before it became WWRUG!
 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Jason Miller
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:51 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ENGAGE
 
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I agree that our WWRUG friends are much better at communicating and giving people the information they need to decide, get approvals and make travel arrangements than BMC.  Let's just hope they don't completely miss the mark on this conference.
 
Jason
 
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:47 AM, David Boylan <david_boy...@brown.edu> wrote:
I still haven't seen much of what is being presented other that lots of marketing.

Is this even worth going to?


Dave

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