Jamie,
I don't run ITSM, so my comment here is more anecdotal than anything
else....but, I have heard that CMDB is not necessarily the most properly
indexed beast out there.  So, I personally look at the values that are
being used as join criteria on anything related to that join, and ensure
that all of the join criteria records are indexed properly, then re-run a
test to see if you see any better performance out of the system :)


On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Jamie <jamie.bo...@transamerica.com> wrote:

> Within 8.x, BMC has deprecated old AR Approval Process by reducing the
> approval process from 16 to just 4.  See link below:
>
>
> https://communities.bmc.com/community/bmcdn/bmc_it_service_support/change_process_management/blog/2014/01/23/change-approval-processes-consolidation-in-itsm-cm-8x
>
> The OOB change approval processes are now evaluating both CIs and Impacted
> Areas for change approvals.  We are working on improving our overall Change
> process maturing and have started adding companies on changes within the
> impacted areas and associating all CIs that are affected by the specific
> change.  Our process for our technicians is to relate the CIs that are
> impacted by your change and then use the Impact Analysis functionality to
> relate any other CIs that are also affected.  This can result in thousands
> of CIs being related to the change ticket.
>
> This is where the problem begins.... :)
>
> When moving the change ticket through the approval process, the approval
> engine then has to sift through
> CHG:Change-ImpactedAreasCIAssociation_outer_ApproverLookup to evaluate
> every single CI and Impacted area to determine whether there is an approval
> mapping to tied to them.  We have had many instances where this evaluating
> has been still occurring after 12hrs+ which we have had to delete in the
> app pending form because other records were queued up behind it.  We have a
> ticket opened with BMC, but they haven't been helpful other than saying you
> shouldn't have more than 1,000 CIs associated to a change ticket.
> (really???)  Are there any improvements that can be made to improve the
> performance of the approval server that we haven't done already?  (see
> setup below)
>
> Below is current setup:
> -5 Sun Solaris App Servers (2 dedicated for Server Group processes (8 CPU
> 16GB RAM each), 3 User Facing (4CPU 16GBRAM each))
> -Dedicated RPC port 390680 (Min=6 Max=8) and thread logs show it stays
> around 7.
> -RPC Loopback plugin configured on 390626 (Min=4 Max=12) and thread logs
> shows it says around 4-5.
> -Definition Check Interval = 300
> -Thread Count = 4
> -Fast Threads Min=12 Max=40
> -List Threads Min=12 Max=40
>
> I know we can modify the AP:Process to look at other forms instead of the
> CHG:Change-ImpactedAreasCIAssociation_outer_ApproverLookup or re-enable the
> deprecated processes, but then if we have any issues in the future, BMC
> will point out that we are following the OOB processes so I'm trying to
> utilize the OOB processes before I take that route.  Are there any other
> folks out there that are using the OOB approval processes in 8.x and
> relating thousands of CIs without issues?
>
>
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