Well....  You guys all rock.  But it turned out to be workflow related!

I don't know if this is out of the box, but there are some active links
that fire when a person first logs in to my system and checks if they
logged in from some where else.  My suspicion is that it is custom and
related to the addition of a government warning that pops up when a user
first logs in.  This workflow checks a form to see if a person is still
logged in.  There is some workflow that is supposed to delete the form
entry when you log out, but because of the initial dbase issues I was
having, that didn't happen for these 2 users (supposition on my part).
This is separate from whatever process Remedy installed to check the
licensing requirements, but it gives the same error message when tripped!
Once I deleted the 2 users entries from this form, they were able to log in
without issue (without the admin privs).  Problem solved.

I've been here for 6 years almost, and this is the first time I've run into
this!

Thank you again for everyone's kind suggestions.  I now know more about how
Remedy cache's users then I ever thought possible!

Take care!

Warren

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Joe D'Souza <jdso...@shyle.net> wrote:

> **
>
> Great point..
>
>
>
> With a recent Windows update, my outlook client using pop/smtp to connect
> to my mail server, would not connect to the incoming mail server.
>
>
>
> Ptroblem turned out to be outlook no longer likes IPv6 to be enabled at
> the time of an initial connect. So I have to disable IPv6, have outlook
> connect to the incoming mail server, and then re-enable IPv6 after which it
> works fine. This happens everytime I restart my machine and seems to be a
> flaw with one of the updates.
>
>
>
> I know that is not the same issue as you, but could be a related issue?
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Grooms, Frederick W
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 11:53 AM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: USER_CACHE Problems
>
>
>
> Here is an off-hand thought … Does the machine the user is on have
> multiple network cards?   Could it be some weird multi-home network issue
> (one transaction the sever see the connection from IP a.b.c.x and another
> from IP a.b.c.y)?
>
>
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *Warren R. Baltimore II
> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 10:47 AM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: USER_CACHE Problems
>
>
>
> **
>
> Good morning/afternoon/evening/night my fellow listers!
>
> First off, I apologize for not responding sooner to everyone's kind offer
> of support.  It was a bit chilly this morning here in Maryland, so my kids
> schools went to a 2 hour delay to prevent the little darlings from having
> to wear gloves and a hat (insert sarcastic eye roll here)!
>
> The issue is not spawned by a user still being logged on to a separate
> machine.  In fact, I had them log out, go to another machine, and then come
> back and log back in.  They got the message, and the user.log reflected the
> other machine.  But even after they are logged out from that machine and
> they just focus on the one.  It keeps happening.  That's why I gave him the
> admin license just so he wouldn't keep receiving the message.
>
> I've just finished working with my 2 problem children.  I've taken quite a
> bit of logging and I am hoping I can track down where Remedy tracks this
> info and fix it there.  I'll let you know what I find.  Might be kind of
> interesting!
>
> Take care for now!
>
> Happy Friday!
>
> Warren
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Misi Mladoniczky  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> An admin can login from multiple machines, that is why the error disappears
> when changing to admin.
>
>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se
>
>
> > If you gave the person admin permissions and the problem went away and
> then
> > came back after you removed it.  Then the issue isn't the user_cache.
> The
> > issue is the permissions that the user has and the permissions required
> for
> > the screen you are trying to access.  Everything is changing when
> > permissions are changed so the user_cache and that whole under lying
> system
> > is working fine.
> >
> > I am sorry I don't have better advice for you, but I would say find
> someone
> > who it is working for and making sure that this user has the same access.
> > Another thing to look into is the data for their permissions in the db.
> > You might see a bit of corruption in the group assignment.  I have found
> > issues with manually pasting in values sometimes.  I hope some of that
> > helps.
> >
> > Brian Goralczyk
> >
> > Brian Goralczyk
> > Phone 574-643-1144
> > Email bgoralc...@gmail.com
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Grooms, Frederick W <
> > frederick.w.gro...@xo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What error is the user getting?   9361 ?
> >>
> >> Also ... When updating a user I think the user cache only gets updated
> >> when one of the following changes (so your checkbox may not have
> updated it)
> >>    Login Name, Password, License Type, Email Address, Default Notify
> >> mechanism
> >>
> >>
> >> You could change their license type to read, save, refresh, and change
> it
> >> back to see if that user's record in the user_cache is updated
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:56 AM
> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> Subject: Re: USER_CACHE Problems
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> If you get ARERR 329, the user/password seems not to match. At least
> not to
> >> what is in the cache...
> >>
> >> You can use another program named arecache to add a new admin user that
> you
> >> can later use with arreload.
> >>
> >> Note that the -s option changed to/from -t at some point. I do not
> remember
> >> which version.
> >>
> >> Choose a Login Name and Request ID that does not exist.
> >>
> >>   arcache -Ua -d -e 00001500 -n loginname -s server -g "1;" -l1 -p
> passwd
> >>
> >> If you are out of fixed licenses, you might need to delete a current
> Fixed
> >> user before you add the new one.
> >>
> >>  arcache -Ud -d -e 0000000000000000x -s ServerName
> >>
> >> Finally try the arreload again.
> >>
> >> I also recall a bug with arreload together with the -d option. Try
> avoiding
> >> -d. I do not remember the exact version with this problem either...
> >>
> >>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
> 2011)
> >>
> >> Ask the Remedy Licensing Experts (Best R.O.I. Award at
> WWRUG10/11/12/13):
> >> * RRR|License - Not enough Remedy licenses? Save money by optimizing.
> >> * RRR|Log - Performance issues or elusive bugs? Analyze your Remedy
> logs.
> >> Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at
> http://rrr.se.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > I did bounce the Remedy system after the problem started.  It didn't
> work
> >> > though....  I've been trying the following command:
> >> >
> >> > # ./arreload -a "[userid]" -p "[password]" -u "User" -s "[servername]"
> >> -f -d
> >> >
> >> > I get the following:
> >> >
> >> > Action Request System  Reload Cache Manager   Version 6.03.00 patch
> 016
> >> > Remedy, a BMC Software company.
> >> > Copyright (c) 1991 - 2005 BMC Software, Inc.
> >> > All rights reserved.
> >> > Summary of command line arguments:
> >> >    User form    : User
> >> >    Group form   :
> >> >    Admin user   : [userid]
> >> >    Update server: [servername]
> >> >    Flush items from CURRENT server only
> >> > Verifying Admin access to 'source' server -- [servername]
> >> >    FAILED!
> >> > Message not in catalog; Message number = 329 (ARERR 329)
> >> >    [servername]
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ARERR 329 :
> >> >
> >> > Invalid password or authentication string for an existing user
> >> >
> >> > The password you have specified for the user name is not recognized.
> The
> >> > problem can be
> >> >
> >> > either with the password or with the authentication string (if using
> NT
> >> > authentication, the
> >> >
> >> > authentication string is the NT domain) or both. Enter the password
> >> defined
> >> > for this user
> >> >
> >> > name to access the system as that user.
> >> >
> >> > I've used both Demo with a Fixed license and Admin privs. as well as
> my
> >> own
> >> > user id that also has admin privs.  Am I missing something?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Grooms, Frederick W wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The logged in status for a user is only in memory (not stored in the
> >> >> database) so have you restarted the AR System?
> >> >>
> >> >> When using the arreload utility make sure to turn off the max number
> of
> >> >> records returned limit (if you have one set on the server) before
> >> running
> >> >> or you will only get that number of users loaded into the user_cache
> >> >>
> >> >> Fred
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> >> >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:58 AM
> >> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> >> Subject: Re: USER_CACHE Problems
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you tried the arreload-program?
> >> >> arreload -u User -f -a adminuser -p adminpassword
> >> >>
> >> >> The -f is supposed to flush the cache before reloading it.
> >> >>
> >> >>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
> >> 2011)
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> >> >> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Warren R. Baltimore II
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 8:06 AM
> >> >> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> >> >> Subject: Re: USER_CACHE Problems
> >> >>
> >> >> **
> >> >> Gave it a shot....no joy in mudville I'm afraid....  Thanks for the
> idea
> >> >> though!
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Karthik  wrote:
> >> >> **
> >> >> Deleting and recreating their user record works?
> >> >>
> >> >> - Karthik
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> On 12 February 2015 at 18:29, Warren R. Baltimore II  wrote:
> >> >> **
> >> >> ARS 6.3
> >> >> Oracle 10x
> >> >> Sun OS 5.1
> >> >>
> >> >> A little help please!
> >> >>
> >> >> My legacy server is showing an issue that I have not dealt with
> before.
> >> >>
> >> >> A couple of days, my database started showing some problems related
> to
> >> >> tablespace.  This caused a bunch of weird issues.  The tablespace
> issue
> >> has
> >> >> been resolved.  A couple of my users had closed their clients during
> >> that
> >> >> time and when they came back received the error message that they
> were
> >> >> still logged on and would they like the other session closed.  They
> >> would
> >> >> answer in the affirmative, but when they would then log back on, they
> >> would
> >> >> get the same message.  I then tried to kick them off from the admin
> >> tool,
> >> >> but they would still get the message.
> >> >>
> >> >> I then triggered (I think) a re-cache by adding a display only
> checkbox
> >> >> and then doing a modify all against all users with that checkbox
> >> checked.
> >> >> I did this based on kbase articles that talked about this type of
> issue.
> >> >> However I still have a couple of users who are getting this message.
> >> >>
> >> >> User logs don't show a need for them to be released, in fact they
> just
> >> >> show them logging in as normal.
> >> >>
> >> >> They are able to work by just closing (using the x to close the
> window).
> >> >> None the less, it is very annoying!
> >> >>
> >> >> Any ideas?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >>
>
>
> --
>
> Warren R. Baltimore II
> Remedy Developer
> 410-533-5367
>
>
>
>
>
>
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