Geez, go away for a week and all hell breaks loose here.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tony, despite your plea "Please, next time don't be a jackass, this > time of the year I am busy with work and it's bad for me to be > diverted to formulate such a response." I have to thank Joe for > inspiring and you for delivering a great read; I vote that you both > keep it up. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Tedesco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Dear Joe, > > while i am tempted to call you names, or mock your lack of > > investigative ability i will simply provide FACTS. > > > > In regards to the first point. I was simply stating that the > > sidewalk was currently clear. While it can be inferred, by my > > statement 'is no longer blocked..', that i was implying that it was > > indeed blocked, my sole intention was to point out that it was > > currently clear. It was a response to the original post. If i would > > have realized it would have filled you with such anger, i would have > > made my sentiments more clear. Rest assured, I will take care in the > > future not to enrage you over petty semantics. > > > > Now for the fun part. > > > > first off the mystery post I was referring to about discussion on > > 6th ave and Dr Ahn's response can actually be found here, reprinted > > from asburypark.net, compliments of Skip (skippy, i owe you one for > > this, it was driving me f'ng nuts that i could no longer find it).. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5k28k > > > > as i stated previously, it is dated 2002. So it MIGHT have been out > > of date in todays asbury reality if not for the FACTS (more on that > > later). > > > > for yucks, i am throwing in Kate's opinion piece where it is > > discussed building a safety net for Dr Ahn into the plan > > (compensated with reserved on-street parking).. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4fmzs > > > > also dated 2002. I am unsure if this provision was tied into the > > agreement/proposal. But if i was a gambling man, I would say no. > > > > I know its been fun up to here, but here's where it gets > > exceptionally good. > > > > please refer to the 'official' city of Asbury Park's website for the > > following document: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4w6xd > > > > (for those who dont want to wait for the pdf to load, i will cover > > the salient points right here before your very eyes..first let me > > say that i have nothing up my sleeves, well other than my arms).. > > > > this is section h (pages 82-88) of the waterfront redevelopment > > plan..its called the 'Implementation' section. It is also > > an 'amendment' to the original plan (their words not mine) {pay > > attention joe, this is where your investigative skills need work, > > but i will give you an A+ in Berating 101, and an 'O' for > > Outstanding under skill sets in regards to your ability to exhibit > > the fact that you are a total knob)..anyway back to the facts.. > > where was i, oh yeah..the really good part..section h, > > implementation, Part 4.1 - "Property Aquisition"..i can't take the > > suspense any more so i will skip past all of the other properties > > that are now considered fair game for eminnent domain..hey that > > rhymes, maybe i should take up poetry..anyway back to skipping right > > to the really really really good part..this is a verbatim paste from > > that document (drumroll please...cue the royal horns..) > > > > ================================= > > Berkeley Carteret Hotel (Block 192, Lot 1): The plan envisions re- > > opening Sixth Avenue (both sides) between Kingsley Street and Ocean > > Avenue to vehicular and pedestrian traffic. It is not the intention > > of the Plan to acquire the Hotel property unless the cost of re- > > opening Sixth Avenue would necessitate it or if the Hotel falls into > > a state of disrepair. > > ================================== > > > > i hit the super tri-fecta..it not only mentions sixth ave and the > > Berkeley, but it also all comes uner the section that uses 'eminent > > domain' in the description. > > > > i know what your thinking..you were so damn sure it was Professor > > Plum with the candlestick in the kitchen..oh well better luck next > > time. > > > > word of the day > > hubris > > n : overbearing pride or presumption > > > > here is an example of it used in a sentence.. > > Joe, I hope you enjoyed this educational asbury moment brought to > > you as a sole byproduct of your hubris. > > > > Please, next time don't be a jackass, this time of the year i am > > busy with work and it's bad for me to be diverted to formulate such > > a response. > > > > A simple 'Tony, I don't think you have your facts straight, can > > you provide documentation that supports your crack pot statments?', > > would have done nicely and would have resulted in a much shorter > > response, directing you politely to the aforementioned websites. > > > > In your defense, maybe you were confused by my statement about > > the 'closing' of 6th ave. I should have been clearer in that i was > > talking about the closing of the 6th ave parking lot, which a former > > owner of the Berkeley purchased, resulting from the 'opening' up of > > 6th ave. In addition, as part of the coversation I have clearly > > labeled as RUMOR, there was something mentioned about zoning and > > required parking space as a way to enable shutting the berkeley > > down, paving the way for eminent domain takeover due to closure. Not > > that I am saying that Asbury would ever ever be embroiled in > > questionable zoning practices. That was my original point, I never > > mentioned the redevelopment deal. It wasnt until you insisted i was > > a liar and a inuendo-er that I took the 5 minutes it takes to > > actually read the redevlopment plan. Actually, I should thank you > > for that because your arrogance resulted in me actually being able > > to present the FACTS and point out (with much glee i might add) that > > it never pays to open your mouth without thinking. > > > > Regardless, I have just three things left to say > > (A) I stand by my promise, in an effort to prevent sending you > > into a state that promotes such acrid responses, to take care with > > semantics in the future. > > (B) as a consolation prize, I have peppered this response with > > questionable grammer and did no spell check. This at least gives you > > something to respond to me about and still save face. > > (C) Lastly, your debate fung-fu is very weak. > > > > awaiting your (no doubt) spirited response.. > > Tony > > > > > > P.s. Sorry about not being able to resist the temptation to call you > > names or question you investigative ability. but giving into > > temptation is the Asbury way. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At 2:18 AM +0000 3/31/05, Tony Tedesco wrote: > > > >I am usually prettygood about being able to back up what i > > say..for > > > >now though > > > > > > Re: Anybody's: The sidewalk was never blocked. The owner is > > complaining about the roadway not the sidewalk. The sign he refers > > to did/does indeed say sidewalk is closed but it is not referring to > > his sidewalk. > > > > > > Re: Berkeley: There is no mention of closing sixth avenue in the > > redevelopment plan or the redevelopers agreement. There is no > > mention of closing, taking over or acquiring by means of eminent > > domain the berkeley hotel due to street closure of sixth avenue or > > any other street. > > > > > > Re: "the sixth avenue option" ... never happened. > > > > > > This mailing list is filled with half-truths, incorrect > > assumptions, innuendo and outright lies. > > > > > > ~joe Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
