"What isn't factual is that the local tax payers should [pay for]
preservation of property… We really must elect at least one or two
people …willing to reach out and get second opinions or do their own
research."

The nub of the problem with both council and The Fish; both are quite
happy to: soak taxpayers, decide issues well outside their areas of
knowledge or expertise, which results in bad or stupid choices that
they then stumble and mumble about seeking justification.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>      The issues of preservation are not new to Asbury Park - this has 
> been said one thousand times.  There are many buildings that have been 
> left to crumble completely and have been rebuilt all over the world and 
> up and down the east coast of the U.S. - from Newport to Cape May to 
> Miami and everywhere in between.  Many far more costly than the price 
> tag on the casino.  These acts of preservation have been found to be 
> economically beneficial over time especially for the community at 
> large.  However, a developer who just wants to come in and flip 
> property and then leave is never going to care about the long-term 
> financial benefits - although a City Council should.  That's factual. 
> You must at least admit that Asbury Partners' advertising Asbury Park 
> based on the "jewels" of architecture here - and then at the same time 
> getting permission to tear these jewels down supports everything I just 
> said.
>       What isn't factual is that the local tax payers should have to
pay 
> increases for the preservation of property they don't own especially 
> since the federal government provides huge breaks directly to the owner 
> and there are many other programs available to support the work of 
> rehabilitation.  We really must elect at least one or two people to the 
> City Council who actually know something or are willing to reach out 
> and get second opinions or do their own research.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:09:21 EDT
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] old stuff saved...
> 
>        How much do you think it would cost to preserve those
buildings?  
> I am just curious.  You mention traveling to Italy and Greece.  
> But those structures, did not sit for years without anyone doing 
> anything.  Some things can be looked at like cancer.  If you catch it 
> early the survival rate is usually higher.  If you know you have a lump 
> and you let years pass and don't go to the doctor, the survival rate is 
> usually low.  
>   Kate Mellina, and the current council seem to be indicating it is not 
> fiscally responsible to preserve some of the buildings in Asbury 
> Park.   The question for preservation should be put on the ballot and 
> let the people decide.  Lay out the cost for both, that way the 
> community is now responsible for the fiscal impact.  If it means 
> significant tax increases, the out come was decided by the people and 
> not by any council members. 
>   In order for council members and board of education members to avoid 
> constant negative scrutiny, they should put major decisions on the 
> ballots. 
> 
>   
>  Angel Martin
> 
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