You should take half of your own comments to
heart. I have never seen anyone with both sides of his mouth completely
double jointed. As you clearly have your thesaurus and book of quotes
nearby try looking up hypocrite or double standard.
Hello
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your
comment:
facts. And they are facts, which are backed
up by transcripts
"Facts" come from the same root as "factory": to do or to make what we
want.
To wit:
"All generous minds have a horror of what are commonly called 'facts.'
They are the brute beasts of the intellectual domain. Who does not know
fellows that always have an ill-conditioned fact or two that they lead after
them into decent company like so many bull-dogs, ready to let them slip at
every ingenious suggestion, or convenient generalization, or pleasant
fancy?" -Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
"I'm not afraid of facts, I welcome facts but a congeries of facts is not
equivalent to an idea. This is the essential fallacy of the so-called
"scientific" mind. People who mistake facts for ideas are incomplete thinkers;
they are gossips." -Cynthia Ozick (b. 1928), novelist
"Facts are generally over-esteemed. For most practical purposes, a thing
is what men think it is. When they judged the earth flat, it was flat. As long
as men thought slavery tolerable, tolerable it was. We live down here among
shadows, shadows among shadows." John Updike (b. 1932), author,
critic
Respectfully submitted,
Mario
========Original Message========
Dan -
Thanks for reminding everyone of these facts. And they are facts, which
are backed up by transcripts from the meeting where Loffredo made these
comments. I have the tapes if anyone wants to listen to them.
Also, I played the tape on the show that covered this issue. Anyone
interested can check the archives on RestoreRadio.com.
Thanks again, Dan.
Maureen
In a message dated 5/9/2005 4:54:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes:
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 15:54:03 -0000 From: "dfsavgny"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: APP Endorese Incumbents
From
APP
"Loffredo is savvy and knowledgeable, and he understands the need
for both patience and for the long view. Mellina, though a lightning rod
for much of the anti-redevelopment criticism, has been a tireless
worker and understands better than most that the city's only hope for
building a better life for everyone in the community is to expand the
ratable base."
Loffredo is obviously savvy enough to know which
side his bread is buttered on. The APP is a joke. They repeatedly
refused to print my response to Loffredo's public reversal on the
Triangle sale and his lip-syncing for Al Faiella, Asbury Partners'
attorney. The Coaster also refused to print it. The other day in NYC,
Charlie Rangel apparently reversed himself on the West Side Jets
stadium. Every local paper took him to task for it. I guess things in NJ
are different and the papers let elected officals betray their
constituients. Remember on May 10th that Loffredo tried to sell you a
bill of goods. On Dec 15 he stated that the values in both appraisals
for the Triangle were too low in his professional opinion. He brought up
none of the "facts" that he one week later tried to convince you really
meant we were getting $33 million for the Triangle. Contrary to his
later advertisement for Asbury Partners, he either was "not up on the
facts" when the ordinace was discussed, or he chose to purposefully
withold them from the public. In the end, his and Faiella's facts are
hogwash, they have nothing to do with the price we are supposed to get
for the Triangle. Remember on May 10th, this is the last real estate
asset we have left to sell or give away to Asbury Partners. Its worth
several millions of dollars, not the $400,000 Loffredo and cohorts are
ready to give it away for, and certainly not the $175,000 Asbury
Partners wants to steal it for. Why is this issue so important, because
it reflects how the majority voting block on the council has handled
everything with Asbury Partners.
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