--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
> 
> Re: Jersey Kev's  comment: 
> 
> 
> One week later the same mob 
> screamed  at him and spit at him and said "Crucify Him."  Let's not 
leave that out cause it is the crucifiction that saves the believing 
heart...


mjd 's comments> 
> Those folks had probably been listening to the demagogic 
blathering  on Fox 
> news, right-wing hate radio, or pharisees like Pat Robertson and 
Jerry  
> Falwell.  
>  
> mjd

KEV AGAIN
Talk is cheap!!!

Now tell me how does your hostility feed one hungry person?
Now tell me how does your hositlity give drink to one thirsty person?

Than tell me how you liberal horse manure helps the children who are 
devasted and confused???

I want you to go to Houston, Texas and tell the kids there when they 
ask YOU "When can we go home?"  That well, you can't because Bush is 
still president or that Conservatism has invaded your home in the 
form of water, snakes, etc, etc....

The problem with your gripe is you have no answers.  I havent seen 
John Kerry on his swamp boat out there lately.  Where is Hillary?

I guess I should be thankful that you are at least blaming man and 
taking shots at me, instead of blaming God.

However, your kind comes to that soon anyway.

LOL

KB
>  
>  
>  
> 
> ========Original Message========
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Responding to Skip -- can’t fathom the 
Jesus you  
> praise  Date: 9/4/2005 12:39:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time  From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:    
> Jesus never counted on Government(s) for  anything.  Exactly my 
> point.  He walked everywhere he went, never  blaming or 
complaining.  
> Even on one occasion he rode upon a donkey...  on that day he was 
> heralded such as a King would be.  One week later  the same mob 
> screamed at him and spit at him as they declared to the  
> Government "Crucify Him!"
> 
> Thanks for prooving my point for  me.
> 
> Kevin Brown
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip  Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > "…even the addicted who have  struggled for  so long were 
always the
> > ones with the greatest  mobility and could pick up and  get going
> > before any one  else.  One shopping cart at a time.  Don't take 
the
> > ability to  choose from people.  Fact is many chose to stay 
behind 
> and
> >  unfortunately they suffered for it."
> > 
> > Pardon me for not buying  into the notion that the poor "even the
> > addicted… were always the ones  with the greatest mobility",
> > notwithstanding the mobility society  provides them courtesy of 
the
> > paddy wagon.  Rev you claim to be a  man of god, maintain that 
the 
> poor
> > are among those having the  "greatest mobility" and absolve a 
> president
> > of all responsibility  for his failure to perform one of his 
highest
> > duties, to save people and  maintain order in a disaster.  
> > 
> > I have a vague  recollection that Jesus worked for and walked 
among
> > lepers, the poor and  destitute, that money and wealth had no 
> influence
> > over him; somehow  I can't fathom the Jesus you praise 
tolerating, 
> much
> > less letting  off the hook a rich boy whose highest order of 
business
> > is further  enrichment of the obscenely rich and who when 
presented 
> the
> > choice  to spend a small sum to repair a levee that threatened 
> hundreds
> > of  thousands, chose to spend those funds on the bottomless pit 
of 
> his
> >  Iraqi folly. 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >  
> > >  
> > > In a  message dated 9/4/2005 4:48:19 A.M. Eastern Standard 
Time,  
> > >  AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes:
> > > 
> > > "Some  people  blamed the President for not responding to the 
> needs of
> > > the  people  who elected not to evacuate before the storm hit."
> > >  
> > > Rev KeV, perhaps you  can enlighten the "people who elected  
not to
> > > evacuate" and us as to how  people without automobiles  were to 
> pack up
> > > their families and belongings,  and move  several hundred miles 
to 
> what?
> > > 
> > > We get that you're  a true blue  (or is that red) republican, 
> likely
> > > have  personally heard the word of god  and no doubt preach 
that 
> your
> >  > particular god will help anyone that helps  themselves; but 
all  
> that
> > > begs the question, should the "people who elected   not to 
> evacuate"
> > > have robbed a bank so as to obtain the funds  necessary to  help
> > themselves?
> > > 
> > > 
> >  > Public transportation was working before the storm.  I am 
sure  
> > their were 
> > > emergency services available to assist people  to comply...  
if  
> not
> > than they 
> > > should  consider this before it happens again.  My point is,  
no  
> one
> > person is at 
> > > fault here.  Certainly not the  President.
> > >  
> > > SKIP really I am surprised at  you...  I am not blue nor red.   
> Been
> > both, and  
> > > see the error of their ways.  
> > >  
> >  > I hear from God as regularly as any man or woman tuned in.  I 
> wish  I
> >  heard 
> > > clear enough to have warned some folks in  The Gulf area about 
what
> > was to  
> > > happen, before it  happenned.  But I ask you, even if God 
showed me
> > ahead of   time. 
> > > like he showed Noah, how many do you think would have  
> said; "Thank You  
> > > Brother Brown, let me get out of here  now!"  and how many do 
you
> > think  would have 
> > >  laughed at me? (at the very least)
> > >  
> > > As far as  the Doctrine of God helps those that helps 
> themselves... I
> > do  not  
> > > subscribe to that and the proof that set me free on that  silly
> > notion was that 
> > >  JESUS DIED ONCE FOR ALL!   
> > >  
> > > Finally, Skip I have been downtown Long Branch  among the 
extreme
> > needy and  I 
> > > had a daughter living  in the French Quarter for three years 
while 
> she  
> > >  struggled with drugs if you must know.  Why I even mention 
this is
> >  because  I was 
> > > always amazed how the poor, even the addicted  who have 
struggled 
> for
> >  so long 
> > > were always the  ones with the greatest mobility and could pick 
up
> > and  get going  
> > > before any one else.  One shopping cart at a time.
> >  >  
> > > Don't take the ability to choose from people.   Fact is many 
chose 
> to
> >  stay 
> > > behind and  unfortunately they suffered for it.
> > >  
> > > Happy  Sunday
> > > Kevin Brown
> 
> 
> 
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