--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <bluebishop82@>
> wrote:
> >
> >
Yeah I'll give you that one too but not all of it I just don't feel
like responing(old news,my fault). Let's wait for the agreement.
Dan I was Ok with your post until I got to the last sentence
> > alleging that there are people who let the City "fall around
them"
> > and that only "outsiders" are smart enough to know the value of
> the
> > City. The problem that led to where we were in year 2001 pre-
dated
> > everyone. Most (not all) of the problems were caused by matters
> > outside AP's control.
>
> Tom, my friend, calm down and look at your post, then look at my
> post in response to Fred's posts. I didn't say that outsiders were
> the "only" ones smart enough to know the inherent value of AP. I
> said it probably takes an outsider (too close to the trees to see
> the forest), but you know I don't really mean that. It is just a
> response to being called a carpet bagger and the repeated reference
> to outsiders, out of towners, etc.
>
> Let's not you and I go back to that again. You put that aside. It
> does not matter how many times I've slept here, but I think you're
> wrong about the 200. Even if I never slept here I own a home for me
> and my family. I don't rent it out; I am not trying to make money
> off of anyone here. In fact, I've lost money (time) being involved.
> I pay taxes. You chose not to live here and moved your family out.
I
> respect your decision and do not consider that an issue in your
> committment and love for this city. Please give me the same
> latitude, although in reality, I will not try to compare my
> affection for AP with yours; you were born and raised here. I
> respect and acknowledge that. But that does not give you or anyone
> else greater rights than me.
>
> The APP has also used the term resident for me. I won't quibble. If
> it is such an issue (which it shouldn't be and I don't know why you
> would want to make it one) perhaps HOMEOWNER would be more accurate.
>
> As to Ron mentioning me in his article, I don't beleive he did in
> the first one, but even if he did, I think Reidy and Bruno got more
> play even though I probably have (and have said) more relevant
> things to say about redevelopment here.
>
> Do I blame long-time residents for the conditions that befell this
> city that were out of their control? No. But even with
circumstances
> that are beyond their reach they can sound the alarm. I won't even
> place blame for some people's silence, but when they are silent
> about what is wrong and then criticize those who call attention to
> what is wrong, then I ask them to remove the beam in their own eye.
>
> You are much too smart to think that I can affect what the NYT
> writes. If I could, both articles would have been much different.
> With regard to the supplemental agreement, I think only today's
> editorial in the APP only began to do justice to the important
> issues.
>
> As to only three people clapping for me - what care I for the
> crowd's approbation? The could all throw rotten tomatoes and I
would
> still speak. I need not the roar of the crowd to know what is
right.
> Remember the line from Jesus Christ Superstar, "the rocks and
stones
> themselves would start to sing." That's what should be happening in
> AP. The bricks and mortar should themselves crow about the wrongs.
>
> I don't care who I offend (although that is not my purpose) - as
> long as the sky is blue I will say that it is blue. I will not be a
> lemming and say it's red. Maybe life would be easier to just go
> along with the tide, right or wrong. I can't live like that.
>
> As to me halting development of the Esperanza for months and
> threatening to halt development further, you know that is not true.
>
> I did not violate the WRP - the city did. I did not disavow the WRP
> in effect - the city did. I did not submit the purportedly wrong
WRP
> to CAFRA and other state agencies - the city did. I did not go back
> on what I said about the Triangle - the city and Loffredo did. I
did
> not enact a WRP contrary to public law - the city did. I did not
> willy nilly sign a RA with a force majeure with an escape clause
for
> litigation when there were already lawsuits filed - the city did. I
> did not go back on my word about C-8 - the city and Loffredo did.
> Shall I continue?
>
> I cannot, and will not, be held responsible if the city refuses to
> do the right thing. That is the majority of the elected body's
> choice. There will always be consequences for doing the rong thing.
> There will always be consequences for doing the right thing. The
> former may outwiegh the latter, but despite that, you should do the
> right thing.
>
> There are plenty of people in AP smarter than I am. I too have feet
> of clay. I have never claimed anything else. You are free to advise
> Ron Smothers of your intentions. He doesn't work for me.
>
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