Well, I must admit that some pretty valid points were written.
I'd like to ask this though...couldn't Asbury serve both it's legacy
of poor and unfortunate people at the same time as the people here
now, and the people Asbury hopes to attract?
Other cities do this, although most are larger then AP. Cities like
Portland OR. Hoboken does a pretty good job of balancing the classes.
Can't something be learned from those places? And, is it right to
vilefy Jim Keady just because he wants to help people?
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> >
> I couldn't have said it any better, you are 100% correct. He should
> go to S Belmar his hometown and try doing this shit there. Maybe
> that's why he's not there. They probabaly ran him out of town.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> This is the heart of the matter Dan.
> >
> > If you look at the whole picture, Asbury Park over the years has
> > done enough.
> >
> > We were the dumping grounds for Marlboro hospital.
> >
> > We were the ones who allowed our housing stock to go mutifamily to
> > help the poor.
> >
> > We are the ones who built federally subsidized housing to house the
> > poor.
> >
> > We are the ones that take in more section 8 than any other town in
> > the county.
> >
> > We are the ones suffering the segregated High School so we alone
> > have to educate the poor to the exclusion of the rest of the County.
> >
> > We are ones to house the County's methodone clinic.
> >
> > We are the base for the Salvation Army.
> >
> > We are the home of interfaith neighbors.
> >
> > In fact, I understand there are over 80 non-profits helping the
> > poor, and heard someone say once that non-profits helping the poor
> > is Asbury Park's largest industry.
> >
> > We are the ones with 39 churches all helping the poor.
> >
> > We are the ones who allowed homeless people to sleep at City Hall,
> > even attracting homeless from other towns.
> >
> > We are the ones perpetually trying more initiatives to help the
> poor.
> >
> > All of that goodwill, YET EVERYTIME THERE IS A MORAL OBLIGATION TO
> > HELP SOMEONE ELSE, EVERYONE LOOKS TO ASBURY PARK TO SHOULDER THE
> > LOAD!
> >
> > The town with the most limited resources is tapped to handle the
> > county and state's pressing social problems.
> >
> > When Father Bob wanted to build the Center, he was pastor of a
> > church with srawling, open acres in Wayside. Not in his backyard -
> > he built it here.
> >
> > Now comes the Market Street Mission to bring us more of the poor to
> > help.
> >
> > Not one other town in Monmouth County does a fraction of what we do
> > for the poor. Yet when a new challenge comes, they look at us and
> > start holding "moral obligation" over our heads.
> >
> > Where is the moral obligatins of the other 51 towns in the county?
> > How dare anyone, EVER look at the people if Asbury Park and inquire
> > whether they will step up to help the poor. Go ask the other 51
> > towns if they will, for once, help the poor instead of Asbury Park.
> >
> > Now comes Jim Keady. He marches into the place that is weary from
> > helping the poor, and starts preaching to us that we have to do
> > more.
> >
> > That is why he comes off as so arrogant. We've done all that and
> he
> > rides past the other 51 Monmouth towns to take us to task for not
> > doing enough? It's insulting.
> >
> > If someone like you Dan comes into the middle of an argument
> between
> > me and Jim Keady, and see's Jim saying do more for the poor and me
> > disagreeing with him, it is easy to paint him as the good guy and
> me
> > as the bad.
> >
> > That of course is intellectually lazy, because knowing all the
> facts
> > above leads to the conclusion that Jim Keady is going to give us
> the
> > straw that breaks the camel's back, while I want to (long overdue)
> > strengthen the camel.
> >
> > If poverty is our problem, we shouldn't expand poverty here. We
> need
> > a bigger base of middle class and (finally, hopefully) some upper
> > class.
> >
> > Let Jim Keady fight for the poor in some other town that isn't
> doing
> > anything for the poor.
> >
> > I'd support him.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <nnjallans1@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > please define the agenda?
> > >
> > > They believe keady will fill the city with soup kitchens and
> > shelters,
> > > in other words, to give it to the poor. That has been said here
> > > verbatim.
> > >
> >
>
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