--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> 
> > 
I think this Hopsin guy will see just that, the entire Board is for 
the kids. He seems like a guy with a short fuse. Type A, an easy guy 
to set off.




This Board of Education sounds like a bad episode of MTV's "The Real 
> > World," where teenagers sit around yelling at one 
another: "You're a 
> > racist!"  "No, you're a racist!"  "No No, you're a homophobe!"
> 
>     Funny, Tom, but you were the first to use those labels in this
> discussion.  I know that seems hard to believe, but check the paper
> trail.  Since you're at least a generation younger than I, you
> compared it to something on MTV, while I had said it was a bad soap
> opera.  To put it in perspective, however, I spent almost thirty 
years
> dodging the slings and arrows of the Middletown Board of Ed.  There
> was an upper middle class community, monolithic to say the least, 
and
> when they fought publicly amoung themselves, it makes whatever
> disagreements we have had, even here, seem like a genteel tea party 
by
> comparison. There is no correlation between infighting and test 
scores.  
>      There have been comments here about Jersey City and its 
possible
> emergence from state control.  Back in 2004, and Mrs. Ross could
> confirm this, the Asbury Park Board of Education  bought the very 
same
> Math program with all of its bells and whistles that had succeeded 
in
> Jersey City.  It was put in place in the 3rd grade, and has advanced
> every year.  Being an old Math teacher, I was skeptical about the 
new
> approach but voted along with my colleagues to approve it, feeling 
we
> needed to do whatever we could, and at whatever expense, to raise
> learning levels.  The administrators keep telling us that the Math
> program is beginning to show the same success as in Jersey City (my
> hometown).  That remains to be seen. But the fact is that even 
though
> the board at the time and continuing to this day has sparred
> constantly and often bitterly, when we are confronted with a vote 
for
> a program that the administrators believe will improve learning and
> teaching, we have never to my knowledge declined to approve it.  So
> the infighting, disgusting as it is, is a sideshow. 
>                                           Frank
>




 
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