Well, my employer is me, and I sometimes don't like what I write, but 
don't fire myself for it.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Following Tom's reference  today to the AP Press article: 
> 
> 
> Perhaps people should consider the first  few paragraphs from this 
opinion 
> piece in today's AP Press before they type  onto this board (or any 
other) these 
> baseless personal  attacks.
>  
> and his comment:
> 
> 
> Follies  of youth can haunt you when they're posted online
> 
>  
> Coming from another perspective,  I pointed out that the article 
also said: 
> "Invite anonymity to the mix  and hostility finds release in the 
vacuum created 
> when shame went missing." 
>  
> In light of some recent activity here, just wondering if he might  
reconsider 
> the following.  
>  
>  
>  
> I find the hunt to out Rolemover less than OK. The Courts even 
recognize a  
> person's right to post with a pseudonym because of a fear of 
reprisals. There 
> is  a tradition of writing with a pseudonym in this country, most 
famously 
> being the  Federalist Papers.  To go after him to out him is on the 
order of 
> harassing  a whistleblower or tampering with a witness.  If he or 
anyone else 
> commits  an act of defamation, then that's  different, and thier 
identity can be  
> discovered by a subpeona to Yahoo after a lawsuit is filed. I don't 
expect  
> most of the board to disagree, but short of defamation, I'd like to 
respect  
> people who wish for their identity to remain private.   
_AsburyPark :  Message: 
> Re: Rev Kev going to HELL!!!_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/20609)       20609
>  
>  
> I see lots of name calling below. I promised Jack I wouldn't 
respond to  that 
> and I won't. By the way, why is it that people with on point of 
view who  
> post pseudonymously here get pounded for doing so, but you 
[AsburyCouple]  don't? 
>  I actually have no problem with people doing so, but I thought 
I'd  add some 
> balance there.    _AsburyPark :  Message: Re: DeSeno, TCN, Keady_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19952)     19952
>  
>  
>  
> Our Posts are Googlable: "That's why someone here  once mentioned 
that they 
> don't want to use their name on this board. A  prospective employer 
may google 
> your name and end up reading bad things about  you that are unfair. 
It couold 
> cost you. I've been picking up more and more  internet defamation 
cases 
> recently. Many people have the concern that message  board posts 
get picked up by 
> Google. The law respects people's rights to post  with a pseudonym 
for that very 
> reason.  We should probably do that here  too."  _AsburyPark :  
Message: Re: 
> Reminder: Our Posts are Googlable_ 
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19557)     19557
>  
> =============================================================
> 
> 
> Wish I knew how to connect some of these dots.
>  
> Curiouser and Curiouser...
> 
> ========Original Message========
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: What the hell happened to this message  
board?  Date: 
> 3/11/2007 12:57:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time  From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:    
> 
>  
>  
> Perhaps people should consider the first few paragraphs from this 
> opinion  piece in today's AP Press before they type onto this board 
> (or any other)  these baseless personal attacks.
> 
> Follies of youth can haunt you when  they're posted online
> 
> Posted by the Asbury Park Press on  03/11/07
> 
> It seemed like a good idea at the time.
> 
> How often have we  all pasted that cartoon balloon over the mental 
> image of a youthful  indiscretion? Thank goodness no one had a 
> camera, we might add.
> 
> Now  everybody has a camera, and youthful indiscretions are 
captured 
> for all  time. And suddenly, we're not so young anymore.
> 
> The  MySpace-Facebook-The  MySpace-Facebook-<WBR>dot-com generatio
> are  finding that their silly stunts have come back to haunt them 
as 
> they enter  the grown-up marketplace. Others are finding that their 
> private moments are  not so private after all.
> 
> Three young women featured anonymously in a  recent Washington Post 
> article told horror stories of their attempts to find  jobs, only 
to 
> discover that they may have been disqualified by online  postings 
by 
> virtual strangers. Gossip and graphics included.
> 
> One, a  Phi Beta Kappa graduate and Yale law student who had gotten 
> articles  published in law journals, interviewed at 16 firms for a 
> summer job and  received no offers. How could that be?
> 
> It turned out that she and others  had been discussed in not-so-
> flattering terms on an online message board,  AutoAdmit, which is 
run 
> by a third-year law student at the University of  Pennsylvania and 
a 
> 23-year-old insurance agent, according to the Post. The  board 
boasts 
> up to 1 million visitors a month, and postings can be  anonymous.
> 
> And vicious.
> 
> Another woman featured in the Post story  is a Yale law student and 
> Fulbright scholar who graduated summa cum laude.  Not only was she 
> the subject of a derogatory AutoAdmit chat, but photographs  of her 
> were posted on a "hottest" law school student contest site with  
> graphic discussions of her attributes.
> 
> Not everyone hates to be  considered "hot," but this woman was 
afraid 
> to go to the gym because  visitors to the site were encouraged to 
> take cell-phone pictures of her.  Beware the chatterbox in the 
shower 
> stall next door. Another young woman  felt afraid when online 
chatter 
> about her led to an anonymous sexual  threat.
> 
> The tension between free speech and privacy is nothing new, but  
the 
> debate has become more complicated by the explosion in video  
> portability and networking Web sites. In today's uncivil society, 
> the  stakes are high and the rules are low.
> 
> Invite anonymity to the mix and  hostility finds release in the 
> vacuum created when shame went  missing.
> 
> Unfortunately for some, employers are now using the Internet to  
vet 
> job candidates. They, too, can be privy to those just-for-fun  
> college forays, as well as to commentary from those with an ax to  
> grind.
> 
> The Post reported research showing that about half of U.S.  hiring 
> officials use the Internet to evaluate job applicants and that 
about  
> one-third had denied employment based on material produced by an  
> Internet search engine. Could it happen to you? Apparently, it 
could  
> happen to anyone.
> 
> Today's college students frequently post their bios  with photos on 
> Facebook.com. Innocent and inexperienced in the realm of  
> repercussions, they don't hesitate to display their silliest 
selves,  
> clothed and often not.
> 
> The generation that was serenaded by Madonna  and marinated in 
sexual 
> imagery now dwells in a high-tech, freewheeling,  sexually explicit 
> environment where porn is the new risque and everybody's  gone wild.
> 
> Ivy League and other large universities frequently are home to  sex 
> magazines featuring students who say posing nude is "fun" and 
> a  "badge of honor," according to last Sunday's New York Times 
> magazine. What's  the big deal? "A body is a body is a body, and 
I'm 
> proud of my body, and why  not show my body?" asks Alecia 
Oleyourryk, 
> co-founder of Boink, a  "user-friendly porn" magazine produced by 
> students at Boston  University.
> 
> "It's not going to keep me from having a job."
> 
> Famous  last words, perhaps.
> 
> It is true that a body is just a body, and everybody  has one. But 
> those who've lived awhile know that what we "knew" with  certainty 
in 
> our 20s isn't necessarily what we come to know in our 30s, 40s  and 
> 50s. When you sexualize and objectify yourself, it's asking a lot  
> that others â€" including future bosses â€" refrain from doing the  
same.
> 
> Advice to the young: If you can't imagine your mother or father  
> doing something, you probably shouldn't do it either. Your kids 
may  
> remind you of that someday.
> 
> Kathleen Parker's nationally syndicated  column appears  regularly.
> 
> 
>    
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