You are absolutely right about everything you just said, and I always respect 
your opinion 
here.
And it's true that i've done some negative posting, big time.
Recently, i've started to try and notice some of the good things, not just the 
bad. 
It's sad to me that "the plan" ignores one of the basic concepts that Asbury is 
known 
for...music. It's always been a part of our history.
And, music tourism compared to destination tourism is much less seasonal.
Cities like Seattle, Austin, Boston, NYC etc. present great music year round. 
I tend to think that year down residential use is going to be much less 
successful then it 
was intended to be. It'll probably also bring a huge dose gentrification that 
will drive long 
time residents away, because it's entirely possible that a huge residentail 
boom would 
drive taxes up so high that some might not be able to afford living here 
anymore.
That's what's happening in Red Bank. Sure, lot's of people like the "new" Red 
Bank. Those 
are the affluent people who can afford to shop and dine there...if they can 
find parking.
Below the surface, Red Bank is losing residents who've been there long term 
because they 
can't afford it anymore. One of their council women resently resigned. One of 
the reasons 
she cited is that the taxes in RB now exceed her income. I've heard this from 
quite a few 
people. She also said that the Red Bank she invested in isn't the Red Bank that 
she loves, 
and I completely agree with her.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> >
> > Why is it that posts about positive things happening in AP rarely
> > become a thread compared to things like posts about the Convention
> > Hall lights?
> > Of course, I started a thread about some successful music events 
> etc
> > but nobody has anything to add. Even though AP still has many 
> things
> > to deal  with going forward, shouldn't we at least acknowledge that
> > it's not all bad?
> 
>======================================================
=============
> 
> Well Hinge, I gave you my conclusions based unon the facts and 
> available knowledge base.
> 
> Speaking for myself, I'm formally trained as an engineer. I view 
> things as to how they are designed and how the work. That applies to 
> everything from your TV set to City Planning.
> 
> Yes, its a shame that negativity dominates many topics here, however 
> given the facts, knowledge base and professional credentials of many 
> of the group members here, is it really a surprise?
> 
> Everyone wants to make Asbury Park the best it can be. That, 
> unfortunately requires change. Requesting change can easily be 
> interpreted as being 'negative'.
> 
> i.e. "You're either with us or against us"
> 
> Take, for example your observations of the litter, hookers. etc. Is 
> that not negative?. Of course you did not intent for your critiques 
> to be negative you wanted a positive change make Asbury Park better.
> 
> The same goes for the conflict between destination tourism and year 
> round residential uses. Want a hip, music City all you like, that is 
> not the Plan.
> 
> Unless enough taxpayers become "negative"  :-)
> 
> Werner
>




 
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