Freedom of Assembly, Tommy. Of course you should support its right to exist.
I love to follow much of the discussion in this group. But the forum would be much much better with some simple ground rules. Politics and religion clearly have an affect on Asbury Park, especially on the local level. It would be a loss to this forum to separate these from other issues that face the city. I think that what this group really needs is for its members to agree to some simple, self imposed guide lines. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I support the right of that other Asbury Park List to exist, but > something always bothered me about it. > > They disriminate for membership based upon sexual orientation. > > Just always seemed strange coming from that group. > > Puts them on par with the Boy Scouts and the Hibernians. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Vail" <vailpj@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tommy, > > > > The List is the other blog spot I was referring to. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > Paul what is the "other" blog spot. Are you referng to "the > list" > > > for the glbt (hope I left no one out) community? > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Vail" <vailpj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The "other" blog spot accomplishes its objective much better > than > > > > this one although it is far from perfect. There are a few > > > important > > > > differences. > > > > > > > > The other site has a moderator. Those who continually cross > the > > > line > > > > are admonished. If they don't listen, they are ejected from > the > > > > site. Push polls set up by a moderator might be a fair way > for > > > the > > > > group to determine whether or not to get rid of a nuisance > > > poster. > > > > Moderators can rotate and be elected by the group through push > > > polls. > > > > > > > > All postings on the other blog spot are required to include > the > > > name > > > > and address of the poster. This fosters community spirit and > > > helps > > > > elevate the tone of the postings. > > > > > > > > Limiting the number of postings to three or four per day per > > > poster > > > > might also help cut down the endless back and forth that some > > > members > > > > engage in. > > > > > > > > I like this list in particular because people are not afraid > to > > > voice > > > > opinions. The posters on this list really care about the > issues > > > > affecting Asbury Park. While there is no need to throw the > baby > > > out > > > > with the bathwater, some ground rules would go a long way > towards > > > > encouraging civility and some much needed self restraint. > > > > > > > > Paul Vail > > > > 511 Second Ave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube <traderdube@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There are a couple ways to read the yahoo asbury group. One > is > > > > > individual emails, the other is in digest form which means a > > > number > > > > of > > > > > posts are combined into one long email. > > > > > You can also go to the web page and read all the posts > there. I > > > > choose, > > > > > as do many others, digest mode. > > > > > In the last digest I received 8, almost half the posts, were > > > from > > > > one > > > > > person. On many boards and internet groups, that is called > spam > > > and > > > > the > > > > > person would get kicked off the board. > > > > > In fact, of those 8 posts, most were either one line answers > or > > > > blank > > > > > repostings of a previous post. > > > > > Combine that with the incessant flame wars that a few people > > > seem > > > > to > > > > > constantly engage in and the waste of bandwidth reaches epic > > > > proportions. > > > > > Flame wars are arguments, usually personal, between a couple > of > > > > people. > > > > > It is very easy to reply directly to a person and take care > of > > > > your > > > > > issues with that person, just between the two of you. > > > > > Just for kicks, here are a set of "rules" on another group I > > > belong > > > > to. > > > > > I didn't write them, I try to abide by them. This is a music > > > > specific > > > > > site, so there is a a difference in topic, but it might help > > our > > > > discourse. > > > > > The founders of the asbury yahoo group have signed off the > list > > > and > > > > > therefore, no one is in control of this group. Anyone who > wants > > > to > > > > can > > > > > type anything they want, as long as the content doesn't > violate > > > the > > > > > yahoo terms of service, nothing will happen. All that means > is > > > > that we > > > > > have to police ourselves, show a little common courtesy and > > > respect > > > > to > > > > > one another and contribute to the various interesting asbury > > > > centric > > > > > discussions. By doing so, maybe all the lurkers out there > will > > > jump > > > > in > > > > > as well. > > > > > > > > > > * Some general guidelines > > > > > <http://oink.cd/redir.php? > > > > url=http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php>. > > > > > * Don't use all capital letters, excessive !!! > (exclamation > > > > marks) > > > > > or ??? (question marks), it seems like you're shouting! > > > > > * No lame referral schemes. This includes freeipods.com, > > > > > freepsps.com, or any other similar scheme in which the > > > poster > > > > gets > > > > > personal gain from users clicking a link. > > > > > * No asking for money for any reason whatsoever. We > don't > > > know > > > > or > > > > > care about your friend who lost everything, or dying > > > relative > > > > who > > > > > wants to enjoy their last few moments alive by being > > given > > > > lots of > > > > > money. > > > > > * No posting music requests in forums, there's a request > > > link > > > > on the > > > > > top bar, please use that instead. > > > > > * No flaming, be pleasant and polite. Don't use > offensive > > > > language, > > > > > and don't be confrontational for the sake of > > confrontation. > > > > > * Don't point out or attack other members' share ratios. > A > > > > higher > > > > > ratio does not make you better than someone else. > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * Use descriptive and specific subject lines. This helps > > > others > > > > > decide whether your particular words of wisdom relate > to > > a > > > > topic > > > > > they care about. > > > > > * Try not to post comments that don't add anything to the > > > > > discussion. When you're just cruising through a thread > in > > a > > > > > leisurely manner, it's not too annoying to read > through a > > > lot > > > > of > > > > > "hear, hear"'s and "I agree"'s. But if you're actually > > > trying > > > > to > > > > > find information, it's a pain in the neck. So save > those > > > one- > > > > word > > > > > responses for threads that have degenerated to the > point > > > where > > > > > none but true aficionados are following them any more. > > > > > Or short: NO spamming > > > > > * Refrain from quoting excessively. When quoting > someone, > > > use > > > > only > > > > > the portion of the quote that is absolutely necessary. > > > > > * No posting of requests for serials or cracks. No links > to > > > > warez or > > > > > crack sites in the forums. > > > > > * Please refrain from starting political or religious > > > > discussions. > > > > > These types of discussions lead to arguments and > flaming > > > > users, > > > > > something that will not be tolerated. This is a > > filesharing > > > > > community in which we share music and apps. > > > > > * Don't waste other people's bandwidth by posting images > of > > > a > > > > large > > > > > file size. > > > > > * Be patient with newcomers. Once you have become an > > > expert, > > > > it is > > > > > easy to forget that you started out as a newbie too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! 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