So what is your point? People don't care about that anymore. These are old war 
stories to people that never had to live it. No one can understand what you 
went through unless they went through it too. They want the government to take 
of them the way mommy and daddy used to. Money for nothing and your chicks for 
free.
 
 

--- On Tue, 10/21/08, oakdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: oakdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AsburyPark] Total Benefits Lower income familes vs Total Benefits for 
low -middle and upper
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 3:41 PM






All the talk about low income, the poor , the middle class, upper and 
the rich and I've been trying to calculate at the end of the year, 
where does each wind up if it (the household) were a business.

I need some expert midns on this and writers...

For exmaple, my wife and I go to work everyday and have mortgage 
payments, taxes, medical, dental, insurance, electric, gas, water and 
other nice things my parents never had like cell phone bills, cable 
bills, startbucks and more... I can almost say we're not really big 
spenders as vacations and the frills go. no giant flat screen tv, I 
cut my own lawn and make flowers grow from other flowers. 

Now, for exmaple, I have tenant "A".

The state pays $1400 towards her rent and I believe most of the 
utilities (12x$1800) = $21,600 to the tenant so she and her kids ahve 
a place to live (that's "tax free income" what's that, about $28,000 
if it were taxed?)

When we got married a millon years ago, we moved into an apartment. 
We both worked out of college, during college and more. We had really 
a big ZERO when we said "I think I do..." We had her parents VW 
Rabbit Disiel with about 150,000 miles on it. I wish I still had it. 
I think my car died and I just rode a bike to train. We both made 
about $15k per year at Merrill. 

So what is the FAIR amount that the government has to fund a family 
to survive today? What are the TOTAL BENEFITS (for lack of a better 
word) that a family in need receives from the Federal Government, 
local Gov, State, local charities etc. I don't want to tihs to come 
across wrong, so I apoligize if it does. What is the answer to help 
people live? BOTH poor and the 2 income family with 3 or 4 kids that 
receive NO benefits....

Should all programs just be canned and give every family in the us 
two cars, a 2-4 bedroom home, a $100,000 year salary, medical care, 
education a couple vacations year , a 40 hour work week, food and fun?

At the same time, take away the responsbilities of marriage, raising 
a family and working for what you get. Erase everyone's mortgages, 
car payments and student loans, credit debt goodbye. Restore our 401k 
plans and other failed moves we were dumb enough to make. 

And my vote goes to....

 














      

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