Well of course I am a racist because I don't agree with you. That comment means 
nothing to me it is overused and worn out. It is like the term "gourmet". What 
food isn't these days?
We don't deserve a recession we deserve a depression and we will see one.
 
The tax rate will be much lower than 200K it seems to keep dropping in every 
speech he makes.Read what you like I lived through Jimmy Carter and you didn't 
this guy will be equal or worse. 
 
So education is bad for you? I don't think so. I have been on both sides of it 
and if you have one you are given a chance, not guarantee, of a better life.  
You have so much more opportunity than if you don't. If you opt out of 
education that is your right you end up with crappy jobs and on the last hired, 
first fired path in life. 
 
Do I want American troops to die? I did my time in the service so don't take it 
there. What I was referring to was the lefts constant cry about American troops 
being murderers. I heard it in the 60's and it's back again. The left talks a 
lot but doesn't do too much unless you consider walking around with signs 
working. I heard an interesting statistic last night that sort of made sense. 
If it rains Democrats don't come out to vote. 
 

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Gabrielle Obre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Gabrielle Obre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 5:00 PM






--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon <tvnetdude2000@ ...> wrote:
>
> Once again why can't you think for yourself. 

I do Mike. Few people who know me would suggest otherwise. I also
defer to those far more intelligent than me when appropriate and feel
secure that two bastions of free market journalism wouldn't endorse a
socialist. Now I know you have never read either.

>We are in recession

we deserve a recession

>and wonder boy is going to raise taxes.

not on me, i make less than 200k

>Perhaps this country needs a depression it will put things back in
perspective for people who can't control their own lives. He plans on
pulling out of Iraq and what do you think will happen then? No, I
really want to knwo what you think will happen when we pull out of Iraq."
>

haven't a clue. aside from not being a reader of the future, I am no
foreign policy, middle east tribal expert. I do know we never should
have been there to begin with...let me guess, you think saddam had
something to do with 911.

>The same thing that happened in Vietnam and that was thousands of
people were slaughtered and there wasn't one liberal out there to
protest." 

so i suppose you don't care about the thousands of American soldiers
who have died needlessly?
>  
> Taking money you earn away simply because you had the ambition to
try to make something of yourself will kill incentive in this country.
Hell why go to college there is free money out there. 

i've known enough people with lots of cash who haven't made anything
of themselves. just rich, miserable and surrounded by wannabees and
whores. I never seek out education to "make something of myself" I do
it for pleasure, curiosity and to better understand the world I live in
>  
> The country has been dumbed down to a dangerous level. 

yeah, you are evidence of that, not to mention the racist coiled up in
your sad soul

>  
> 
> --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Gabrielle Obre <gabrielleobre@ ...> wrote:
> 
> From: Gabrielle Obre <gabrielleobre@ ...>
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 4:19 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Once again Mike, I beg you to explain to me how and why the Financial
> Times and the Economist would endorse a "Socialist"? You simply must
> know nothing of those two sources and/or read as many periodicals as
> Sara Palin.
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon <tvnetdude2000@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> > You can "no he's not all you like". Taking from people who earn
> their money and giviong it to people who don't is Socialism. You are
> also among those that think he is going to lower taxes for 95% or teh
> population. Not if he plans on doing what he promises. Of course he
> could just be tellign abig fib but politicains never do that.
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 11/2/08, Jack Pitzer <hinge98@ > wrote:
> > 
> > From: Jack Pitzer <hinge98@ >
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
> > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 10:14 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > No he's not. You can easily find things in the Bush world that can
> be called socialist. You 
> > can call the bailout socialist. McCain presents ideas that can be
> viewed as socialist.
> > So, there you go, jumping on the buzzword of the moment bandwagon.
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon <tvnetdude2000@ ...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not for nothing but can't any of you people think for yourselves?
> Obama is a Socialist.
> > >  
> > > 
> > > --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Jack Pitzer <hinge98@ > wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: Jack Pitzer <hinge98@ >
> > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 12:42 PM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think the bigger problem is that we live our lives via
> soundbytes that we hear on TV.
> > > We have dumbed ourselves down to the point where a 10 to 60 second
> piece of 
> > > information is all we need to form an opinion. If you like FOX
> news, and you hear 
> > > somebody say "Obama is a socialist" then you believe it.
> > > There's also a big problem, in my opinion, with the overabundance
> of 24/7 news 
> > outlets. I 
> > > believe that people are dumbed down to the point of not realizing
> that most, if not all 
> > > have an agenda, and are being used for propaganda. MSNBC's morning
> shows tend to 
> > > favor McCain just like FOX. They all have some kind of agenda,
> although I find CNN and 
> > > BBC to be the least partisan.
> > > We also tend to let others do the thinking for us. We sit our
> asses on our couches and 
> > let 
> > > others tell us what's right and wrong. Our own desire to create a
> convenient lifestyle is 
> > > part of our downfall. It shows up in our waist bands as well as
> our knowledge of the 
> > world.
> > > And, it's no wonder that our kids test scores are low compared to
> the rest of the world, 
> > > because entire generations have been raised on soundbytes and
> distractions.
> > > Kids in America who are doing their homework on computers are
> constantly distracted 
> > by 
> > > text messages, IMs, Facebook, myspace and on and on. And when they
> aren't doing 
> > that, 
> > > they are watching TV that brings them the world in a face paced
> edited way. I recently 
> > > heard a report on NPR in which a worldwide study was done to see
> if multitasking helps, 
> > > or hurts kids. Overwhelmingly the conclusion is that it hurts
> them, because it doesn't 
> > allow 
> > > connections to be made or acquired knowledge to sink in. But kids
> think they are better 
> > > and smarter because they can multitask, which is a false idea.
> > > 
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Gabrielle Obre"
> <gabrielleobre@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Even if they don't stoke it, they benefit from it. This kind of
> > > > behavior happens at all levels. Women/girls do it to one
another all
> > > > the time through gossip. The first time I recall an
example.."Sonya
> > > > doesn't wear underwear!" in like third grade. 
> > > > 
> > > > A woman in an Asbury bar last week said to me "But Obama is an
Arab
> > > > and we are fighting Arabs". Another said "Isn't it true he has
NEVER
> > > > really worked".
> > > > 
> > > > Americans loathe thinking for some reason. Its on both sides.
And we
> > > > love to think we are separate from others. We also stop being
> open to
> > > > growth and discovery as adults and therefore repeat obvious
> untruths,
> > > > like Obama is a Socialist. Mike still thinks so bless his heart.
> Its a
> > > > problem of consciousness.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think McCain or Palin have personally fueled the racist
> > > > fire, but some of their 
> > > > > supporters definitely have. I also applaud McCain for
confronting
> > > > people at his events that 
> > > > > have suggested that Obama is a Muslim.
> > > > > 
> > > > > To that point, it really disturbs me about how many
Americans got
> > > > caught up in the 
> > > > > Muslim rhetoric, and furthermore, it's terrible that in doing
> so, it
> > > > branded the whole 
> > > > > Muslim religion as bad for those who wish to think so, which
is a
> > > > horrible thing for our 
> > > > > citizens to to. I bet a vast majority of these people don't
know a
> > > > single thing about the 
> > > > > Muslim religion.
> > > > > 
> > > > > At the same time, there are people attending McCain/Palin events
> > > > that are putting out 
> > > > > racist thoughts. Here's an example...listen to the guy at 23
> seconds in;
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zRqcfqiXCX0
> > > > > 
> > > > > And, if you search on youtube for McCain, racism, you'll see
lot's
> > > > more, and it's disgusting.
> > > > > There was a video in which a guy actually looked right at the
> camera
> > > > and called Obama an 
> > > > > "N" word, but fortunately it was removed from YouTube. I was
going
> > > > to post it here 
> > > > > Tommy didn't believe it existed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But, you don't just have to use the "N" word to stir the racist
> > > > fire. Watch that whole video 
> > > > > above. Watch as what appears to be a nice old lady starts
off with
> > > > her racist statement.
> > > > > This is something that invalidates the concept that "America
> is the
> > > > greatest country on 
> > > > > earth"
> > > > > 
> > > > > When I was younger, I used to believe that. Then I spent years
> of my
> > > > life living and 
> > > > > working overseas, only to come home to a country where racism is
> > > > alive and well, and that 
> > > > > includes things said by the Rev. Wright, but, for me, it's
easy to
> > > > see where his brand of 
> > > > > racism came from, because his race has been horribly abused
> right up
> > > > into this century, 
> > > > > and finally we are starting to see that go away, slowly but
> surely,
> > > > and the nomination of 
> > > > > Obama is proof.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon
> <tvnetdude2000@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like word "Coded". It is a nice term for accusing someone of
> > > > being racist. The racist 
> > > > > crap is wearing thin. No opinion unless it is Obama's
opinion. We
> > > > will see how long that 
> > > > > lasts.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/1/08, justifiedright <justifiedright@ > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > From: justifiedright <justifiedright@ >
> > > > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: I Don't Want to be in That Place!
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
> > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 1, 2008, 8:24 AM
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "sharon_b283"
> <sharon_b283@ ...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > JR:
> > > > > > > Take one look at McCain-Palin rallies. How many Blacks do
> you see 
> > > > > > >in
> > > > > > > the audience? One or two? What does that tell you? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sharon Blacks vote 9 to 1 Democrat in Presidential election.
> That's 
> > > > > > been the case for years. Has nothing to do with McCain or
Palin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >What about the
> > > > > > > "coded" language being used against Obama? That he's a
muslim,
> > > > > > > socialist, consorting with terrorists, when he's always
been a
> > > > > > > Christian, that sharing the wealth with the poor instead
> of the 
> > > > > > rich,
> > > > > > > makes him a socialist and that he sat on a board that the
> Annenberg
> > > > > > > foundation sponsored in Chicago and that Ayers, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nothing is Coded. All of that comes from Obaam's actions.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Palin speaks just the opposite of her running mate! People
> yelling
> > > > > > > "kill him" and terrorist in the McCain crowd, not being
> corrected! 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How many times do I have to post it: The Secret Service 
> > > > > > investigated. The "kill him" incident never happened.
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