In a message dated 11/15/2008 9:43:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
4Or are you [so blind as to] trifle with and presume upon and despise and underestimate the wealth of His kindness and forbearance and long- suffering patience? Are you unmindful or actually ignorant [of the fact] that God's kindness is intended to lead you to repent ([a]to change your mind and inner man to accept God's will)? The above is the amplified version of Romans 2:4 =================== My amplified response. (Sorry group. I'll respond just this once.) Interesting to note that you presume to know precisely what that "will" is. Reminds me of Marjoe Gortner, the 3 Rev. Jims (Bakker, Swaggart, and Jones[town]), Father Charles Coughlin, Tony Alamo, (the fictional) Elmer Gantry, and dozens of others who wreaked havoc on so many innocents with such presumptions. I'll match my knowledge of scripture with anyone: 16 + years of Catholic school education; 30 + years studying and teaching literature from the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, Islam, and other world religions. And after all that, I still admit to imperfect knowledge, as the scholars do. Especially important to me is the wisdom of 1) Judaic scholars for whom "Questions are the Answer," and 2) Corinthians: "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things....For now we see through a glass, darkly." Am I unmindful or actually ignorant? "Judge not, lest thou be judged." See, anyone can quote scripture for his own purposes. Regarding your long history of baiting here, I've long run out of "kindness and forbearance and long- suffering patience," and so my mail settings will now go back to ignoring your posts. ============================= --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/14/2008 9:10:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > ... at the risk of reigniting this issue on this board, that > may be the greatest oversimplification of this situation I've seen. > There are always two sides to every argument and they are rarely as > simple as "the good one and the bad one" > > ==================================== > > I don't want to re-ignite or fight old wars either. I did extensive > research in 2006 and 2007 and posted the results and my sources to this group. The > links below refer to just some of those in the archives. In the main, I > didn't base my opposition to MSM's JSRM on perceived misstatements from SUFA nor > on scripture which is easily misapplied. > > I hope they come through wingding-less and with screwed up formatting. If > they do, it might be easier to simply type the message # in the search box on > the main messages page. For example #1 below is message # 28804. > > Again, I'm not looking for a renewed interminable game of Whack-a- Mole here, > Just providing the info I found for those who may still be interested. > > ==================================== > > Detailed side-by side analyses: > > 1) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/28804? threaded=1&l=1 > (contrasts 5 NJ homeless shelters) > > > 2) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25733? threaded=1&l=1 > (contrasts between mediocre MSM and top rates Homeless Solutions) > > > Other significant issues: > > > 3) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/17353 > (Analysis by disinterested parties) > > 4) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25274? threaded=1&l=1 > (tax exempts in AP) > > > 5) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25756? threaded=1&l=1 > (transparency issues) > > 6) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25761? threaded=1&l=1 > (non-profits and disparities in homeless numbers in AP) > > 7) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/25781? threaded=1&l=1 > (the competence issue) > > 8) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/28805? threaded=1&l=1 > (disappearing data = no transparency) > > 9) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/28808? threaded=1&l=1 > (police: “Mission is not being truthful) > > 10) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/28838? threaded=1&l=1 > (proliferation of bogus credentials) > > 11) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/28850? threaded=1&l=1 > ( the revolving door keeps the exploiters in business) > > 12) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/29075? threaded=1&l=1 > (Cavalier about not checking records.) > > 13) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/29137? threaded=1&l=1 > (City suffers when the need for credentialed staff is scoffed at) **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. 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