2 plus 2 is still 4 no matter what you do or don't do for a living. I've had to put together many deals involving the present value of dollars received later (that's me sticking to the law as the other Dan said - he just forgot to inquire what type of law).
It doesn't make a bit of difference what either of us do or how many times we've done it. 2 plus 2 still has to equal 4. You are not going to get an investor to hand you 8.3 million for the right to (maybe) receive 13.3 million over 10 years, when he can safely make the same money in a CD in the same period of time with no risk and no administration costs. In real world terms, Asbury Park would have to ask for a great deal less than 8.3 million. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dsher4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK hold on - let me explain > > one example is 8.3 million tied up for 10 years. your 5% example. > you get 5% on 8.3 each year or $415,000 > > The example i gave is 8.3 million up front like your example, but > you receive 1.34 million each year that you can then re-invest in > something else. > > SO, it is a better stream of cash flows > > Trust me on this one, i do this for a living > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > That's right - which is why I don't think the posts have been > > correct in calling the deal as presented a 10% rate of return to > the > > investor. > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So if I put 8.3 million in a safe investment vehicle with 5% > > > > compounded annually, how much would I have at the end of 10 > > years? > > > > > > > > > > $ amount X (1 + i)^n > > > > > > i = rate of interest > > > n = compounding periods > > > > > > Let's you find the compound interest factor > > > > > > The answer using your numbers > > > > > > $8.3M X (1 +5%)^10 > > > $8.3M X 1.628895 > > > > > > $13.519825M > > > > > > Go in reverse. What is the present value of $13.519825 to be > > received > > > in 10 years assuming a 5% interest rate. > > > > > > Present value factor is reciprocal 1/(1+i)^n > > > > > > $13.519825M X 1/(1+5%)^10 > > > $13.519825M X .613913 = $8.3M > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/