Than the city should just switch the designation between Labor Day and Memorial Day to "Resident Parking Only" for the 200 blocks. In the winter, I doubt people would want to walk an extra block or two rather than park near the venue they intend to visit. Why should the 200 block residents even have to deal with this during the winter in the first place? The demand simply is not there.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids <claire.davids@...> wrote: > > But if you did that then people would just start parking there instead of > the paid areas and you'd be back to the no parking scenario. > > > > *Satisfied Customers on Receipt - Worldwide* > Claire Davids > Managing Partner > i-Parcel LLC > Tel: +12015491502 > Mobile: +16464316239 > www.i-parcel.com > > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Hinge <hinge98@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > All I'd like to see is one simple thing. Suspend paid parking on the 200 > > blocks between Labor Day and Memorial Day. I can live with the issues during > > the summer. But being asked to pay to park on an empty residential block is > > absolutely absurd. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > My point, reserve spaces on your block so when there is the demand > > present that leaves you with no spaces, those excess cars (visitors) go go > > to the next block perhaps. That causes residents on that block not to be > > able to park (the number displaced by the excess cars) and now they have the > > same complaints, so we do the same there, and so forth and so on. > > > > > > It is only going to get wore unless the whole thing fails. 1.5 cars off > > street parking requirement per new unit in the waterfront area. Can you > > imagine the implications if even 25% of it gets built? Who has 1.5 cars? No > > guests? You think the folks in Ocean Grove have complaints about parking in > > the summer? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not reserve spaces for residents only on my block? > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Why curtail the hours when there is zero demand? > > > > > I would have bought the permit if the city designated a number of > > spaces "Resident Parking Only". > > > > > > > > > > Wouldn't it make sense for the city to have done a parking survey > > first? Find out how many residents park in the designated area, and reserve > > spaces for residents in those areas. On my block this summer that would have > > amounted to 3 spaces. I realize that varies from block to block, but as I've > > said, the current system is great for the city, but useless for residents > > such as myself. What's the value in paying to park when you can't find a > > space to use it? If I bought the permit should I get a refund on the perhaps > > 24 days when visitors took up all the spaces? > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Tough one, but I am probably leaning towards relaxing in that area > > off season or curtailing the hours BUT if that's done and during a concert > > at the Pony there's no spaces on your block what will you say? This is my > > entire point about the compatibility/incompatibility of uses. Residences > > near or in the middle of uses that draw high visitor traffic have issues. > > You will not be able to solve them. I do not think anyone has. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this > > topic), what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until > > midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between > > Bergh and Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. > > You will see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this make sense to anybody? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. > > She has 2 choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark > > around the corner, or on the 300 block. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From NYT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN > > > > > > > > <http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/> > > > > > > > > Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when > > > > > > > > Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on > > Monday, > > > > > > > > it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious > > spirits. > > > > > > > > [The Day] The Day < > > http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/> > > > > > > > > Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their > > freedom of > > > > > > > > movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie > > up his > > > > > > > > horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American > > notion. In > > > > > > > > Australia, the No Parking Meters Party > > > > > > > > <http://noparkingmetersparty.org/> came into being a few years > > ago, > > > > > > > > running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a > > slogan > > > > > > > > that "the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Writing about the final curtain > > > > > > > > < > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p>> > > > > > > > arking-meter.html> for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to > > the > > > > > > > > day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. > > Grynbaum > > > > > > > > alluded on Monday to the 1967 film "Cool Hand Luke > > > > > > > > < > > http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ > > <http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767>> > > > > > > > 838C679EDE> ." In its opening scene, the title character, played > > by > > > > > > > > Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang > > for > > > > > > > > drunkenly lopping off the heads of meters with a pipe cutter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back in 1967, some people in the New York theater where I saw > > it > > > > > > > > cheered as Luke went from meter to meter, methodically > > decapitating > > > > > > > > each one. To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free > > > > > > > > spirit's rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of > > > > > > > > their more soulless creations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps those same people would have pumped their fists > > joyfully had > > > > > > > > they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's last single-space > > meter > > > > > > > > from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Not > > that > > > > > > > > meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of > > thousands remain > > > > > > > > in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year or so, > > the > > > > > > > > city's Transportation Department expects multispace Muni-Meters > > to > > > > > > > > be the rule everywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The relationship between some New Yorkers and their parking > > spaces can > > > > > > > > run deep, even as the city becomes ever more bicycle conscious > > > > > > > > > > perhaps especially as the city becomes more bike conscious. You > > > > > > > > don't have to own a car to understand that. I haven't owned one > > > > > > > > in 33 years. Yet an available parking spot right in front of my > > > > > > > > apartment building is so alluring that it almost makes me want > > to rush > > > > > > > > off to buy something to fill the space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Throughout Manhattan and in parts of other boroughs, the hunt > > for a > > > > > > > > perfect spot, one where a driver may leave the car for days > > without > > > > > > > > fear of a summons, is no less an obsession than the pursuit of > > the > > > > > > > > white whale was for Ahab. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Politicians certainly understand this. It helps explain why, > > over the > > > > > > > > years, they have steadily expanded the exemptions to the > > alternate-side > > > > > > > > parking rules, usually in the name of paying tribute to some > > religious > > > > > > > > or ethnic group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Transportation Department now recognizes 32 holidays > > > > > > > > < > > http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/motorist/scrintro.shtml#calendar2011> > > > > > > > > , with a total of 42 days, when the rules are suspended and > > sanitation > > > > > > > > trucks are thus unable to sweep. It is one of New York's > > > > > > > > peculiarities that the chosen method for honoring various > > > > > > > > constituencies is to leave the streets dirty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With a run of Jewish, Roman Catholic, Muslim, Hindu and legal > > holidays > > > > > > > > upon us, there will be a 44-day stretch, from Sept. 29 to Nov. > > 11, > > > > > > > > during which alternate-side parking regulations will be lifted > > > > > > > > one-third of the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me, the rebel's romantic concept of parking meters as an > > enemy > > > > > > > > no longer holds, if it ever did. An opposite thought is more > > dominant: > > > > > > > > Why is public space, a most precious commodity in this city, > > allowed to > > > > > > > > be used as a private storage area? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Years ago, I asked in a column if it would be all right for a > > New > > > > > > > > Yorker in a crowded apartment to put a chest of drawers on > > wheels and > > > > > > > > leave it at curbside > > > > > > > > < > > http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/30/nyregion/nyc-alternate-side-of-realit\ > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/30/nyregion/nyc-alternate-side-of-realit>> > > > > > > > y-parking-rules.html> observing all parking rules and taking a > > > > > > > > chance on theft. The very idea was, of course, absurd; you > > can't > > > > > > > > store personal property on the street. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why, then, is it O.K. to do that when the wheeled property is > > called a > > > > > > > > car? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If public space is to be used for this private purpose, perhaps > > what > > > > > > > > the city needs to do is greatly expand the areas where people > > must pay > > > > > > > > for the privilege. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not that this could be done without fierce resistance from some > > on the > > > > > > > > City Council and in the State Legislature. Generally speaking, > > when it > > > > > > > > comes to the proper place of the automobile in this crowded > > city, what > > > > > > > > we have, as Cool Hand Luke found out in his own way, is a > > failure to > > > > > > > > communicate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! 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