I got your point Doug and agree... Don't tell someone else to put on deodorant when you smell like shit.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Doug M" wrote: > > My apologies; I must have been reading a different post than the one you > describe. The post I was referring to is titled "The Defacing of Asbury > Park." In THAT post, the originating poster described how local property > owners' failure to maintain their historic facades is a "threat" that > "adversely effects [sic] the character of the community." The originating > poster goes on to list several properties, both commercial and residential, > and their specific deficiencies. The post of mere observations that you > describe does, indeed, seem a lot more benign. We couldn't possibly be > talking about the same post. > > I do agree with Werner's point that preserving architectural and design > standards can be a substantial benefit to a community in a variety of ways. > One method that some municipalities use to thwart the insidious and > detrimental decline of historic facades is to form and empower a historic > preservation commission. In order to be effective, however, these historic > preservation commissions need to have "teeth" in the form of regulatory and > financial tools, such as enforcement penalties, tax incentives and form-based > design and architectural codes. That empowerment needs to come from a > governing body with the conviction that such historic standards are desirable > and important. Has our governing body been given such a mandate? It doesn't > appear so. > > My point in referring to Werner's prior code enforcement issues with the City > is that if one wants to stem the tide of historic neglect in a city that does > not have a meaningful historic preservation plan, then the owners of those > properties who feel that preservation is an important issue need to lead by > example. Without a plan by the governing body, those owners can start by > maintaining their own properties up to the standards that they advocate for > others. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Regine Flimlin wrote: > > > > Hey Doug > > No need to get personal, seems to me the guy is just reporting what he sees > > in the commercial sector. > > Reggie > > > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Doug M wrote: > > > > > Werner, > > > > > > I agree that preserving the facade and design of historic buildings would > > > be great for the community. Most people appreciate the lasting charm of > > > historic architecture over modern buildings or half-hearted solutions > > > that diminish historic character. > > > > > > To that end, I am curious about YOUR house. Didn't you run into some > > > trouble (an understatement, if I remember correctly) a few years ago for > > > refusing to make improvements to your own historic home, including > > > required safety improvements? It sounds a bit hypocritical to be > > > criticizing others for their "architectural faux pas" when the person > > > pointing the finger refused to put his own "house" in order. > > > > > > Should we add YOUR house to your own list of structures that could use a > > > little TLC? > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" wrote: > > > > > > > > Reading a post on the Asbury Park Sun today reminded me of a threat the > > > > City has been facing for decades... The defacement of its vintage and > > > > historic structures. > > > > > > > > The damage is incremental and hardly noticed until it reaches a > > > > critical mass and adversely effects the character of the community. > > > > > > > > Some notable examples..... > > > > > > > > - A classic brick residential/commercial building at 6th and Main; > > > > painted. > > > > > > > > - The former North Asbury Park RR Station at Memorial Dr. of brick and > > > > exposed wood beams; painted. > > > > > > > > - A brick building at Summerfield and Emory; painted > > > > > > > > - The Windor Building at Main and Bangs, a historic site; painted, > > > > antenna dishes, inappropriate commercial facades. > > > > > > > > - The Arthur Pryor Pavilion; stuccoed over, painted, remodeled. > > > > > > > > - Many classic brick Main St. buildings; stuccoed over, painted, > > > > inappropriate storefronts, etc... > > > > > > > > Stucco, paint, inappropriate storefronts, remodeling.... > > > > > > > > The clasic, historic look and feel of Asbury Park is being erased in a > > > > slow steady assault. > > > > > > > > The Sun posting has a photo of a beautiful brick commercial building > > > > with inappropriate signage covering what should be transom windows, a > > > > character defining feature of the building. > > > > > > > > http://asburyparksun.com/rebearth-art-supply-and-lifestyle-to-close/ > > > > > > > > This board has been inactive for so long, but at least my concerns are > > > > now part of public record... > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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