Hi there,

I am quite agree with Christophe, Michael, Francesco and Fanny with the fact 
that mixing colours is not a constraint for pupils and it may be a catalyst for 
motivation ! Thus, i don't see ambiguity between learning how to mix colours 
and learning how to program. So, when you want to evaluate the learnings, you 
should just be carefull with the task you ask : if you want to evaluate whether 
pupil know how to program, so just ask "program Thymio so that it switches from 
a colour of your choice to another color of your choice".

Regards,

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Le 10 févr. 2014 à 17:47, Stéphane Magnenat <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
>> If I understand correctly, the idea would be to have "red or not",
>> "green or not" and "blue or not" (and the mixes)? I don't really see how
>> this would be an advantage. Playing with the colours can be fun, finding
>> the blue you want instead of having only one can bring some creativity
>> and can be a good pretext to make students play with VPL. I would vote no.
> 
> The point of simplifying VPL is to make the introduction to computer science, 
> and its evaluation, as simple as possible. Quoting. Prof. Gärtner:
> "Imagine a problem where you ask children to switch the color to blue, then 
> to red after some seconds. What you want to check here is whether they get 
> the logic right, and not whether they can correctly mix colors. And if for 
> example, a kid does a mixture of red with some other color (they do such 
> things for fun if they can), do you consider the solution correct?"
> 
> I have not seen this problem but it might be because I was not paying 
> attention. What is clear is that, if we wish to test our tool in a 
> scientifically-sound way, we have to be attentive of not testing something 
> else than we think we test.
> 
> That said, I currently feel that this change reduces too much the feature 
> set, but I would like to hear from people who have more educational 
> experience than me.
> 
> kind regards,
> 
> Stéphane
> 
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