Cool. I'll have a look. While we're on the topic, anyone know of an AspectJ-like product for the .NET environment?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Eric Tanter <etan...@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > If you're interested in aspect languages for dynamic languages like Groovy > (which actually do answer some of the questions you raised below), you may > want to have a look at what has been for Scheme and JavaScript: > > AspectScheme: > http://www.cs.usask.ca/~cjd032/downloads/AspectScheme/ > http://www.cs.usask.ca/~cjd032/publications/semantics-scp06.pdf > > AspectScript: > http://pleiad.cl/aspectscript > http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl/papers/2010/toledoAl-aosd2010.pdf > > -- Éric > > > On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Matthew Adams wrote: > >> inline... >> >> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Pierre Thibault >> <pierre.thibau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> You can create your aspects in AspectJ and do the weaving on the .class >>> files generated by Groovy. >> Assuming you know what the signatures of Groovy methods are, I suppose >> you could write AspectJ aspects. Questions: >> >> What's the pointcut for a Groovy method "def go(foo)"? What's the >> pointcut for calls to the closure invoked like "list.each { foo(it) }" >> so that I can apply around advice to it? >> >> It seems as though there are opportunities to Groovify pointcuts, >> advice & ITDs. If I have to write everything in AspectJ, it seems >> like a less desirable solution. >> >> Also, what if I'm interpreting scripts instead of compiling my Groovy >> classes? How do I make aspects apply then? >> >>> You can also create a little shell in AspectJ >>> delegating the work to an implementation in Groovy. >>> >> Seems like a kludge to me. I'm curious about a full-blown, native >> Groovy version of AspectJ. >> >> -matthew >> >>> 2010/6/14 Matthew Adams <matt...@matthewadams.me> >>>> >>>> [NB: crossposting to both groovy & aspectj user lists. Replying to >>>> both would be cool.] >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> For me, using Groovy is like programming with lubrication -- makes >>>> programming slicker and faster with less resistance. However, since I >>>> use AspectJ with Java, I'm not willing to give up the power of aspects >>>> (pointcuts & advice) and intertype declarations. I would make the >>>> leap wholeheartedly to Groovy and probably never look back if I knew >>>> how I could use these AspectJ constructs in Groovy. >>>> >>>> Is there a definitive road map for "AspectG", as it were? How does >>>> the dynamic nature of Groovy and Groovy's MOP affect the strong syntax >>>> affinity that AspectJ has in Java land? >>>> >>>> I'm aware of Groovy's (and Objective-C's) categories, but that seems >>>> to fall short of the full power of AspectJ, plus, I'm not sure that I >>>> necessarily like Groovy categories' "use" syntax, unless I'm >>>> misunderstanding it. (Note that I would make the same argument for >>>> Objective-C -- is there an AspectOC on the horizon?) >>>> >>>> I've also seen http://www.infoq.com/articles/aop-with-groovy and >>>> http://groovy.codehaus.org/Using+invokeMethod+and+getProperty which >>>> discuss some AOP concepts in Groovy, but that kind of method >>>> interception seems to provide AOP support on an individual class basis >>>> (and only for method invocation, leaving out constructor invocation >>>> interception, field access interception, etc). >>>> >>>> -matthew >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mailto:matt...@matthewadams.me >>>> skype:matthewadams12 >>>> yahoo:matthewadams >>>> aol:matthewadams12 >>>> google-talk:matthewadam...@gmail.com >>>> msn:matt...@matthewadams.me >>>> http://matthewadams.me >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewadams >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit: >>>> >>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A+ >>> >>> ------------- >>> Pierre >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mailto:matt...@matthewadams.me >> skype:matthewadams12 >> yahoo:matthewadams >> aol:matthewadams12 >> google-talk:matthewadam...@gmail.com >> msn:matt...@matthewadams.me >> http://matthewadams.me >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewadams >> _______________________________________________ >> aspectj-users mailing list >> aspectj-users@eclipse.org >> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/aspectj-users > > _______________________________________________ > aspectj-users mailing list > aspectj-users@eclipse.org > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/aspectj-users > -- mailto:matt...@matthewadams.me skype:matthewadams12 yahoo:matthewadams aol:matthewadams12 google-talk:matthewadam...@gmail.com msn:matt...@matthewadams.me http://matthewadams.me http://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewadams _______________________________________________ aspectj-users mailing list aspectj-users@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/aspectj-users
