*** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of
their own fate.
And I support their dying for their
believe?
Being masters of their own fate
is one thing
and dying in their pursuit of being the
masters of their own fate is
another, supporting from a distance in their dying while trying to be
the the masters of their own fate is
another
It sounds like saying, I believe in
their going to heaven and having 1000 virgins in heaven.
Go for it ULFA.
Well worth dying for.
RB
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:15
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is
rather a Moral Question
>*** That is why I don't go asking
ULFA to go die for me.
That is what supporting ULFA
means.
*** It does? I learn something everyday.
>Moral support to die because
they are dying anyway?
*** No because I believe in their pursuit of being the masters of their
own fate.
>By saying they will go to
heaven?
*** You take a guess on that.
>Or you are trying to make
them immortal?
*** No, bravery becomes immortal by itself--because people look up to it.
Bravery is defined by a will to fight or struggle against overwhelming odds
for an honorable cause ( as in the pursuit of independence), at great risk to
oneself.
>Support a dying person by
providing a Brahmin priest?
Not a chance! Buddhist will be it.
>But as LDB has indicated, their cause may be
WRONG.
*** He also said it may be right. He just did not take a position
on the matter. Does not necessarily mean he does not have a position on it. He
just was not about to FOCUS or dwell on that aspect at the moment.
It is what is called a manner of speech, and not meant for taking one
part of it aside for childish, semantic manipulation.
>How do you make one
immortal who die for a wrong cause?
*** You figure that out. I gave you all the clues you need.
'--but I may
decide otherwise if they have a chance to win'
*** We got that, loud and clear. That is RB's kind of morality.
It is a question whole Assam has
been asking ULFA.
*** What does that have to do with the PRINCIPLE of the matter?
>Show us the
beef.
*** You can't eat it and have it too.
>Are you Lasit or you are
playing games with people of Assam?
*** I am Sondon. I don't have an identity crisis. Have no aspirations of
being named a Barphukan, like Badan either.
>Are you real or are
flirting--
Yes I am real. But my flirting days are long over.
>-- with the name of
'sovereignty' and making money for yourself?
That is NOT for ME to say and for YOU to figure out!
Oh, one more thing: Yes, I do play with SOME people's minds. But they are
mostly in the US. And they deserve to be played with.
Now will you explain YOUR
morality?
At 1:44 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to
go die for me.
That is what supporting ULFA means.
You
are supporting from the comfort of the American Armchair because they are
dying anyway.
>But if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I
could do is give them MORAL support
Moral support to die because they are dying
anyway?
By
saying they will go to heaven?
Support a dying person by providing a Brahmin
priest?
Or
you are trying to make them immortal?
But
as LDB has indicated, their cause may be WRONG.
How
do you make one immortal who die for a wrong cause?
'--but I may
decide otherwise if they have a chance to win'
It
is a question whole Assam has been asking ULFA.
Show us the beef.
Are
you Lasit or you are playing games with people of Assam?
Are
you real or are flirting with the name of 'sovereignty' and making money for
yourself?
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a Moral
Question
>When one asks
someone else to die for something one believe, that becomes a question of
morality, question of >ethics, not of expediency.
*** That is why I don't go asking ULFA to go die for me. But
if they are dying for THEIR cause, the least I could do is give them MORAL
support if not material and moral both, instead of sticking a wet finger
into the air to see which way the wind is blowing, before I decide
whether to support them or to damn them; as in : >I will never support the actions of ULFA from a
distance if I know their
cases are doomed
What did not get said, but could be clearly inferred, is
:'--but I may decide otherwise if they have a
chance to win'
You could not explain the direction of your MORAL COMPASS more
clearly! No doubt it was an accidental disclosure, but the sub-conscious
showed up loud and clear Rajen.
Hai bidhata !
c
At 12:54 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
When one asks someone else to die for something one believe,
that becomes a question of morality, question of ethics, not of
expediency.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Chan
Mahanta
To: Rajen
Barua ; assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:35
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Supporting ULFA is rather a
Moral Question
>Morally I will never
support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases are
doomed >as of Subas Bose and Phizo.
*** That is NOT morality. That is called
expediency!
That damned English language again!!!
At 12:30 PM -0600 1/31/06, Rajen Barua wrote:
>"*** I don't 'CLAIM
independence for Assam', whatever that means. But as a
well-wisher of Assam I DO INDEED support Assam's sovereignty
aspirations "
-
Chandan:
>I am an US citizen, as
you know. Thus it will be absurd for me to go 'CLAIM
independence for Assam'. That would be elementary, wouldn't you
think?
- Chandan
>If ULFA truly believes
(rightfully or wrongfully) that India is an occupying force,
why would they surrender? Did Naga leader Phizo ever surrender?
Would
>Subhas Bose have surrendered to the
British?
- LDB
>A very mature letter. A man
after my own heart :-).
- Chandan
>I have heard of all kinds
of excuses people hold out why independence is scary for
them, but never heard of this boogie you brought
out.
Chandan
Somehow the above
comments bring to my mind as if some of us are trying to
support ULFA the way one would support "Charge of the Light
Brigade" from a distance. We can always support such aspirirations,
and in fact inspire such aspirations from the comfort of
America Armchair, because we have nothing to
loose.
I would rather
comment the same way as Chandan did to Hemenda.
>"And coming from someone like yourself, who
probably claimed US citizenship with a mere five or so years in the
country, enjoying the benefits and protections >of a secular
society with a rule of law,it is that much more unbecoming,
hypocritical"
Morally I will never
support the actions of ULFA from a distance if I know their cases
are doomed as of Subas Bose and Phizo. Morally I would have to join
them if I believe what they believe.
RB
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