couldnot bargain on the share state should have got utilisation of
resources >like oil, coal and water.
*** Very faulty reasoning here. WHY should Assam have to go beg,
plead, bargfain or grovel for a FAIR share of what is THEIRS--ALL of
it--to begin with?
It is no different from Kharkhowas pleading with Dilli to not change
the name of their state to Asom.
At 11:18 AM +0530 12/18/06, Manoj Das wrote:
Hi dadas,
The case of Assam is like that of a cursed 'Hamuman' -who didnot
know his own strength. We are so careless that our political leaders
couldnot bargain on the share state should have got utilisation of
resources like oil, coal and water. Nagaland adn Arunachal are much
smarter. Day before I attended a workshop organised by Arunachal
government on the development of 50000 mw of hydropower in the
state. The state is expecting to rake in about 10000 rs. crore just
from signing MOUs. It will also take part in equities through a
special dispensation from the Planning commission. Our leaders
havenot thought about bargaining the downstream rights of riparian
states. 'sobei nakot tel di shooi ase'. Arunachal Govt. is ready to
talk to Assam on the issue.
Just a point to ponder. Despite extracting oil/coal/tea from
the area upper Assam districts have lower per capita income than
some other lower Assam districts.The resources have not added to
their wealth. And look at this..Bhutan has now the highest percapita
income in South Asia..just on the strength of two power
projects..Taal and Sukha..also built on India's money. Only they
knew how to bargain and negotiate.
"Jaa"...*
MKD
*Jai Ai Asom/Axom"
On 12/18/06, Ram Sarangapani
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Barua,
>In case of Assam, they had to keep the people busy so that they
donot have time to >discuss what happened to Rs 15000 croes,
>Assamese intellectuals, the media and all are falling for it.
Actually, in the case of Assam, the people are either totally
unaware or just don't care of what happened to the Rs. 15000 crores,
AND nor are they (it seems so) upset or seem to care about the the
name. (the Hobo Diok kicking in)
The reason I am saying this is, I don't see any mass-scale
opposition (or for that matter support) for the name change. Where
is the passion?
As far as the intellectuals, they are not falling for it, but it
seems they want to have a "say" whether its right or wrong. To be in
the limelight is nice. And as for the media, they just want to
sensationalize something where there is absolutely none. They too
don't know which horse to back these days.
--Ram
On 12/17/06, Barua25 <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My feeling is that politicians and some "literary stalwarts" who
have little else to do, bring up non-issues like this from time to
time. It seems >like they just want to whip up some regional or
linguistic frevor. Its all hubris and rah-rah than anything else.
I will agree with that.
It is like re-arranging the furnitures in Titanic.
In case of Assam, they had to keep the people busy so that they
donot have time to discuss what happened to Rs 15000 croes,
Assamese intellectuals, the media and all are falling for it.
Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Ram Sarangapani
To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Rajen & Ajanta Barua
Cc: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Dilip/Dil Deka ;
<mailto:assam@assamnet.org> ASSAMNET
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
Dear Barua,
My basic argument is that, even though it may make "sense" , why is
that when the names were originally accepted - ie: Bangalore or
Madras or Baroda or Assam, the people in those days accepted the
names without any problem?
Why is this becoming a trend now? Were those early people just plain
stupid that they accepted whatever names were given? What has
changed?
My feeling is that politicians and some "literary stalwarts" who
have little else to do, bring up non-issues like this from time to
time. It seems like they just want to whip up some regional or
linguistic frevor. Its all hubris and rah-rah than anything else.
As far as Assam is concerned, the ONUS should be on the people who
are hell-bent on changing the name to Asom. They should provide the
logic and reasoning why such a name change is not just necessay but
also imperative for Assam's survival. Why should there be a need
by those who are satisfied with continuance of the name "Assam"
bring in historical or other relevance so as to convince the Assam
Govt. not to change.
--Ram
On 12/17/06, Rajen & Ajanta Barua
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Ramgopal:
If one looks at these name changes, all may make sense. In fact
another due change may be Baroda to Badodara.
But Assam to Asom does not make any sense at all. This is a classic
example of what we say in Assamese:
Dekhak dekhi kukurew pale ekadoxi.
or
Adak dekhi keturai bwle mwkw kha.
Barua
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Ram Sarangapani
To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Dilip/Dil Deka
Cc: <mailto:assam@assamnet.org>ASSAMNET
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
Whats the world coming to. Here is a news item from the TOI along
some more name changes. Looks like these politicians and others have
little else to do.
From the TOI:
BHOPAL: After Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, Thiruvananthapuram and
Bengaluru, the Jabalpur Municipal Corporation has passed a
resolution to rename the city to Jabalipuram.
The BJP-ruled Madhya Pradesh government is also mulling renaming
Bhopal to Bhojpal and Indore to Indur.
The resolution was passed in the Jabalpur Municipal Corporation
meeting on Saturday, both by BJP and Congress members. Corporators
said the city was being renamed after a sage in the 'Ramayana'. The
resolution has been sent to the state government.
According to some BJP members, every part of the country should be
renamed after carrying out historical analysis and research.
BJP leader Anil Dave told TOI, "Post Independence, we removed
British statues from the country. So why can't we remove the British
names of our cities?"
"It was a demand by the people of Jabalpur to name it after 'rishi'
Jabali who had his meditation camp here," Jabalpur mayor Sushila
Singh said. "Let us connect our city with the history and culture of
our country. Jabalpur on the banks of river Narmada is a sacred
place of Hindu sages."
Congress corporator Jagat Bahadur Singh said, "Sadhus gathered in my
ward in Narsingh and proposed that the city be renamed after sage
Jabali. This was Congress agenda, not the BJP's."
Renaming Bhopal to Bhojpal (the city of king Bhoj) after Bhoj Deva -
the Paramara king who ruled the region from 1010 AD to 1055 AD and
was a soldier, builder, scholar and patron of learning - was BJP's
agenda.
Bhoj Deva's position in history matched Vikramaditya Chandragupta II
who ruled from Ujjaini (now Ujjain).
The first attempt to connect Bhopal to Raja Bhoj was made in 2002
when the name of the city's airport was changed to Raja Bhoj
International Airport.
--Ram
On 12/17/06, Dilip/Dil Deka
<<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Here we go again. Not being able to solve it locally, Assam has to
appeal to Delhi to intervene.
It is intriguing that we do not know who is instigating this change.
The chief minister doesn't have the passion for the change. A large
number of community organizations don't want it. Then who does?
I am not commenting on the name itself but on the process. The lack
of will to handle local problems locally is a symptom of a deeper
complex.
Dilip Deka
Guwahati, Sunday, December 17, 2006
'Asom' faces strong opposition
By A Staff Reporter
GUWAHATI, Dec 16 - Though the State Assembly passed a resolution
yesterday on voice vote to replace 'Assam' with 'Asom' as per the
February 27, 2006 decision of the State Cabinet, there prevails a
strong opposition to the decision. Opposition members like Leader of
the Opposition Brindaban Goswami, AGP's Anup Phukan and CPI's Drupad
Bargohain were on their feet yesterday demanding discussion on the
resolution moved by Environment and Forests Minister Rockybul
Hussain on behalf of the State Government. But the Speaker silenced
them saying that the stage to initiate discussion on the move was
over.
After the session was over, Anup Phukan told newsmen that even Chief
Minister Gogoi was pronouncing the name of the State as 'Assam'. The
Tai Ahom organizations are opposed to the idea of replacing 'Assam'
with 'Asom'. The Government should have gone for a detailed
discussion on the issue, Phukan said.
Leader of the Opposition Brindaban Goswami said while speaking to
this newspaper today, that the Opposition members tried yesterday to
initiate a discussion on the issue. But they were denied any scope
to that effect.
Elaborating, Goswami said, with several organizations and scholars
opposing the move to replace 'Assam' with 'Asom', a debate on the
issue was on. The Government also constituted an expert committee to
examine the issue. It was not clear as to whether the Government
moved the resolution as per the recommendation of the expert
committee or following its discussion with the organizations of the
ethnic groups and the scholars, Goswami said.
Meanwhile, the Tai Ahom National Council, the apex body of the Tai
Ahom organizations, is preparing to move the court challenging the
resolution. The Council has also decided to convene a meeting of the
Tai Ahom organizations, the organizations of the ethnic groups like
the Koch-Rajbongshis, the Morans and Motoks, the Deuris, the Sonowal
Kacharis and the Chutiyas and the like-minded people who have been
opposing the move to effect a change in the spelling. The meeting is
planned in the city in the next week, said working president of the
Council Dr Prabin Konwar here today.
The Council, which has 12 Tai Ahom organizations as its affiliates,
submitted a memorandum to the State Government drawing its attention
to the historical documents, which suggest the existence of the name
'Assam' from time immemorial, Dr Konwar said.
The Council also contended the argument that Bombay became Mumbai,
Madras became Chennai, Calcutta became Kolkata, Gauhati became
Guwahati and Sibsagar became Sivasagar recently and this should also
apply to 'Assam' and it should be replaced with 'Asom', saying that
all those changes were effected only to undo the wrong committed by
the British colonial rulers.
But in the case of 'Assam', the council argued, long before the
advent of the British colonial rulers to this part of the country,
Sihabuddin Talis, who accompanied Mirjumla, described the State as
'Assam'. Even Srimanta Sankaradeva described the State as Assam in
the 14 th century AD, it argued in its memorandum to the State
Government submitted after the February 27 decision of the State
Cabinet.
Dr Konwar said that despite large-scale opposition to the Cabinet
decision, the Government led by Tarun Gogoi stuck to the decision
mysteriously failing to honour the sentiments of the indigenous
people.
The Council has also decided to send memorandums to the President,
Prime Minister and the Ministry's concerned and all the MPs from the
NE region to veto the State Assembly resolution, Dr Konwar said.
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