C'da I am just going to respond to this one portion.
*** There you go! You do know how to distance yourself from the realities that surround you with the use of words. Just like Ram distanced himself from the humanity of those people who appealed to GoI for bringing and end to the violence thru negotiations with just one word "TRADERS", thus discounting their humanity and concerns. With such intellectual bravery, you all hold up your civilization as a beacon to the world.
The reason I brought up "TRADERS" was because you and BB brought it up as if "these traders" were ALL for some negotiations. All I am saying is, yes they may well be - but not for the reasons you would would others to think - THAT IS, even these traders want a fast, negotiated peace talks - and maybe even "Assam's independence" I don't see it that way at all. The traders are NOT the GOI, they are just looking for their own interests. You go ask a common person from the Fancy Bazar or Athgaon area - you will probably get that reply too "we want talks" & Peace. (basically meaning - leave us alone) The concerns of all these people are genuine - their safety, their livelihood. But who is perpetrating this violence? The ULFA. The supporters of ULFA (and ULFA) are back-peddling really fast now. They see public anger, a couple of lynchings (in the rural areas - the supposed ulfa "ghatti" -stronghold). So what do they do? Deny vehementally (Of course after gauging which way the wind is blowing) that ulfa was responsible Get some comments from frightened-out-of-their-wits common folks, traders etc, who want "peace" and turn those around to sound as if the whole of Assam is behind this "cause" Keep spinning this thing - find anyone or anything to pin the bombings on Take full advantage of the genuine anger of people on the Govt. for NOT being able to provide security for its citizens. Put as much time & spin in-between this - so that people will forget. The ulfa can run away and cause mayhem another day. Lastly, just because the the Govt. machinery was/is not able to protect the lives of all citizens from the so many blasts, should the ULFA then sneak in to kill more people (because the Govt. is supposedly inept?)? (This is NOT to excuse the govt. of its responsibility to citizens, but it certainly DOES MEAN that when the Govt.'s guard is down (or the ULFA sees a chance) it will take it to kill ordinary Assamese. Really, its no bravado to bomb, kill, and hurt people in a public place. --Ram On 5/30/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Nayan: > I'm glad that at last you admitted that you are a wimp. *** Didn't realize you were under the mistaken idea that I was otherwise. Why didn't you just ask. I am not ashamed of being a wimp to admit it. Haven't you noticed how I never accuse anyone of being a 'coward' unlike your brave compatriots in assamnet? That is because I am one myself :-). >about the suicide bomber thing, no matter who ever says that, Till the attacks are against the civilians >of Assam, they will be deplorable and taken as an act of terrorism by the people of assam against >them and not
as
anything else. *** I am sure your warning will be taken due note of those who might be contemplating such. Question is whether they will be shaking in their chappals from it ? If past and present experience is any guide however, that may not be enough of a deterrence. What do you think ? Maybe you can
as
ask a Tamil Tiger or a Kashmir Freedom Fighter if they are deterred by warnings of the righteous like yourself. Will you be able to demonstrate your commitments to a peaceful resolution of the conflict by standing up and supporting the plea of the 'traders' published in the AT that Barta Bistar posted ? >In case you have not noticed, I have not commented upon the doings of any organisations until now *** That shows your fair-and-balanced outlook and respect for the law
which,
I presume, holds no one should be held guilty until so proven in a court
of
justice. Such magnanimity is the stuff of legends and differentiates a high-court advocate from ordinary mortals . > I as a concerned citizen of Assam, would like the fear factor out of the minds of the people, who are >afraid to venture out to any market areas
even
during the day time. *** That must make you unique! Glad you pointed that out. >So for me and for the people of assam, who does not have the means to
find
out who are behind such >heinous acts, these will be just random acts of terrorism. *** There you go! You do know how to distance yourself from the realities that surround you with the use of words. Just like Ram distanced himself from the humanity of those people who appealed to GoI for bringing and end to the violence thru negotiations with just one word "TRADERS", thus discounting their humanity and concerns. With such intellectual bravery, you all hold up your civilization as a beacon to the world. >Everybody is concerned about only one thing. THAT IT SHOULD STOP. *** But are YOU? And if you are, why did you AVOID answering the question
I
asked: Will you be able to demonstrate your commitments to a peaceful resolution of the conflict by standing up and supporting the plea of the 'traders' published in the AT that Barta Bistar posted ? But I realize, one gets carried away with all the writings and can miss a point or two. So, would YOU put your money where your mouth is and
support
the plea of these TRADERS, even though they could be expended as mere opportunists, to seek the ONLY possible way to bring an end to the
conflict?
I shall wait with bated breath :-). >I'm on your case because i know that you alongwith some others who do not have the guts to give >blood are instigating others to do that on your behalf. and that is setting a bad trend. *** So do you think you are having any effect? Is your getting on my
case
and extracting the confession that I AM a wimp and a coward is doing any good to your cause - namely silencing me or even those other unnamed few?
You don't observe too well do you Nayan? Now why do you think anyone is getting instigated by what I say or write? Because I say good things? Or because I say bad things? Are these folks
who
get instigated by my writings fools and are willing to go die on MY
BEHALF
fighting the Indian Army, me who does not even live in Assam , because I defend Assam's rights to its resources and rights to reform its governance for the BENEFIT of ALL its people, not just a select few like you folks
want
to perpetuate? That is quite an inference if you asked me. You flatter me so. But something tells me it is a rather brazen attempt to intimidate me. Unfortunately it does not work here Nayan. You should have known that by now. c-da At 12:46 PM +0530 5/30/07, Nayanjyoti Medhi wrote: C-Da, I did not ask you how many times you have/had been in Assam and whether
you
know Assam. I know that you know. *** Unlike you brave folks , I am quite a wimp and have neither the desire nor the commitments required to become a suicide bomber or for that matter any bomber. Thus I also do not instigate others to become such. But I thought you were informed enough to have known where news of that possibility came from. FYI, that was what was hinted by none other than ULFA's
chairman,
Rajkhowa. I would not take that lightly, unlike you military strategists
of
Assam Net. Because that has been a well define trend in countless asymmetrical warfares waged by freedom fighters and terrorists alike in recent decades, around the globe. I'm glad that at last you admitted that you are a wimp. about the suicide bomber thing, no matter who ever says that, Till the attacks are against the civilians of Assam, they will be deplorable and taken as an act of terrorism by the people of assam against them and not
as
anything else. In case you have not noticed, I have not commented upon the doings of any organisations until now. I as a concerned citizen of Assam, would like the fear factor out of the minds of the people, who are afraid
to
venture out to any market areas even during the day time. Whoever is doing this is not helping the people of assam in any way but rather they are contributing to the backwardness of this region. Now the question arises as to who are behind these acts of terrorism. No
one
has come forward to claim responsibility till now neither has there been
any
explanation as to why these acts has been committed. I as a private
citizen
do not have the means to find out who are behind these. So for me and for the people of assam, who does not have the means to find out who are
behind
such heinous acts, these will be just random acts of terrorism. But I have asked you to come and enlighten us as you seem to know more about these. But your non acceptance of my offer would only make me come to a
conclusion
that although you know more than us, you for some unknown reason are unwilling to share it with us and so further make me conclude that you are not sincere to the thoughts you defend vehemently in assamnet. And as to your knowledge about why these things are happening, no one in assam is concerned as to why its happening. Everybody is concerned about only one thing. THAT IT SHOULD STOP. Thus you can count on hearing from me again . Don't forget , if my
analyses
and reasoning had no influence, you would NOT be on my case like crows
over
june-bugs :-), as they might say here in the US midwest. You are right. I'm on your case because i know that you alongwith some others who do not have the guts to give blood are instigating others to do that on your behalf. and that is setting a bad trend. it is getting the young peole of assam into early graves. And they also say many others things in US midwest. I would not like to say that to a Assamese elder no matter how crazy he may be. Regards, Nayan p.s: i will be in Geneva for 2 weeks, so replies may be a late in coming. please bear with me. On 5/30/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Nayan: At 11:19 PM +0530 5/29/07, Nayanjyoti Medhi wrote: C Da, Don't beat around the bush. Just say in a plain 'YES' or 'NO' whether you are coming or not *** I have already been in Assam twice this year. Thanks much for your generosity in offering guide services, but I really don't need it. You may not know this, but I happen to know Assam fairly well. You have forgotten that here in India, the government is by the people,
so,
*** You are quite the humorist, aren't you :-)? I wished you had read a recent address by Newsweek editor Fareed Zakaria and what he thinks of Indian democracy. If I can locate it again, I will send a copy of it for your reading pleasure. BTW, Zakaria is quite an India promoter, not like yours truly at all :-). >If you want I can get all the families of the victims send an invitation
to
you. *** That will not at all be necessary Nayan. I happen to know all about their plight , and WHY it continues. Thanks to Assam and Indian intelligentsia's role in helping perpetuate the tragedy. > I had refrained from answering your questions then because someone else had answered them >better than i could ever have. And if you remember I
had
said that. *** If I am not mistaken, you wrote that you will wait to hear what OTHERS say about the first set of questions. And I don't recall anyone attempted
to
answer it, as I expected none to. >Even recently Chittaranjan Da had replied to some of your queries in a
very
liberal manner to which I >throughly agree and can't think of adding anything more. *** I haven't had a chance to reply to Chitta yet on that, but rest
assured
there WAS NOTHING that resembled an answer to HOW he or his supporters and admirers plan to end the conflict in Assam, unless you consider wishful thoughts plans for action. >I am not like you and for that matter like anyone else who would comment
on
any Godamme thing just >for the sake of commenting. *** Now, now Nayan! Let us not get all that worked up to damn your God on this. I know you are a far better man than I could ever be, and thus you don't comment on things that I barge right into. BUt there is another
reason
also: I have an ability to look into the basic principles underlying an issue, even if I might not have knowledge of the facts or technical
details.
When we discuss and debate issues, we can never be certain of what is presented as factual evidence or technical details. Therefore we have to look into the underlying principles to analyze them. It is a skill that is not always evident in our forum, even though it ought to be, considering
the
level of education and commensurate intelligence expected. >p.s: If you have the guts, be a suicide bomber yourself. Don't instigate others to suicide for your whims >and fancies. You have done enough
already.
*** Unlike you brave folks , I am quite a wimp and have neither the desire nor the commitments required to become a suicide bomber or for that matter any bomber. Thus I also do not instigate others to become such. But I thought you were informed enough to have known where news of that possibility came from. FYI, that was what was hinted by none other than ULFA's
chairman,
Rajkhowa. I would not take that lightly, unlike you military strategists
of
Assam Net. Because that has been a well define trend in countless asymmetrical warfares waged by freedom fighters and terrorists alike in recent decades, around the globe. No I have NOT done enough yet. I wished I could do more to help hose whose mindset helps perpetuate the conflict in Assam see reason. Thus you can count on hearing from me again . Don't forget , if my analyses and reasoning had no influence, you would NOT be on my case like crows over june-bugs :-), as they might say here in the US midwest. Take care. c-da Why do you not talk with the people. I am inviting you. If you want I can get all the families of the victims send an invitation to you. I will
answer
all your questions. But the forum should be here in Assam. Before its people. I had refrained from answering your questions then because someone else
had
answered them better than i could ever have. And if you remember I had
said
that. Even recently Chittaranjan Da had replied to some of your queries in
a
very liberal manner to which I throughly agree and can't think of adding anything more. I am not like you and for that matter like anyone else who would comment on any Godamme thing just for the sake of commenting. Regards Nayan p.s: If you have the guts, be a suicide bomber yourself. Don't instigate others to suicide for your whims and fancies. You have done enough
already.
On 5/29/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi Nayan: My apologies for the delay in replying to your incisive, steel-trap questions . Here I am , humbly submitting to your inquisition (albeit
late
for being out of town for the Memorial Day weekend) without a whimper
about
your disappearing act whenever I ask some questions in return. I realize
you
are busy deliberating on them and will reply in 'due time' :-). >"why all these Maara Maari is acceptable" *** To foolish people like myself, it is NOT at all acceptable that these conflicts should have ever escalated from disgruntlement against governmental un-responsiveness to 'andwlons' ( agitations) and then to insurgency , warfare, secret-killings, state sponsored terrorism, bombing
of
civilian targets -- you name it. I await in dread of the next possible phase of the continuing escalation---- of suicide bombings, tacitly supported by those who shall not accept a negotiated political solution (
as
amply demonstrated by their pronouncements in every conceivable media). On the other hand, I ask of you and others like you, who make up the brain-trust of your society, if your approach, of crying rivers of tears, while continuing to stone-wall a political solution, aren't mere crocodile tears of those who are UNAFFECTED by the violence, sitting pretty in your comfortable prosperity and relative security? Your intelligence, your wisdom, becomes an issue, only because of what YOU say and what you do ( or don't). Will you be able to demonstrate your commitments to a peaceful resolution of the conflict by standing up and supporting the plea of the 'traders' published in the AT that Barta Bistar posted ? We will be all ears. cm At 10:37 PM +0530 5/27/07, Nayanjyoti Medhi wrote: Dada, That was what i wanted to say. Saying directly has had no answers nor acknowledgements. Only dangor dangor philosophy from the know it all's as
to
why all these Maara Maari is acceptable in the name of liberation of
Assam.
I want them to see and feel the same anguish the family members of the innocent victims are going through. Nayan On 5/27/07, Manoj Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's sad that innocent people suffer in the all such cases. Our
condolences
to the sufferers. It could be anyone, and they have nothing to do with liberation, oppression or anything. Some years back an Assamese family lost 5 family members in Delhi's
Saroniji
Nagar bomb blast. Mr. Apurba Sarma of Nagaon, working in a bank came for a vacation with his sister-in-law's family. Mr. Sarma went to buy some
sweets,
and the other members were having 'aloo chaat', when the bomb ripped through. 5 of them were pulverised instantly, three badly burnt. We went
to
see his recuperating survivors at Safdarjung Hospital. His youngest
daughter
was in ICU and wanted to be with her mother. Mother and elder sister were
no
more, and who could break the news to her? It was heart rendering. Mr Sarma's life was devasted in a second's time. Just a second before that moment it was full of life and fun, a moment later it was all gone. -mkd On 5/27/07, Nayanjyoti Medhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Dear C da, I would like to invite you to Assam/Asom/axom (Athgaon, Fancy
Bazaar/Abroad
the Brahmaputra Mail). The weather is really great. Red is the Colour of
the
day. It feels really good when you take a walk down the Bazaars. Tommorow
is
Guwahati Bandh. I'm sure you have not enjoyed a Bandh for a long time. i suppose it does not happen there in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. So why don't you accept my invitation and come down for a prolonged visit. I will
surely
take you everywhere. Will show you where the bomb blasts occured. Will
even
take you to talk with the family of the victims. You can even tell them
how
lucky they are to have given their beloved ones for liberation. If you are lucky, we might even be eye witness to a few bombings and see the RED
oozing
out of humanity. Regards Nayan On 5/27/07, Jyotirmoy Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: This is what I feel should happen in Assam: President' Rule be imposed on Assam. ULFA given a strict deadline by which to surrender and come for talks. Bangladesh also given a deadline by which they should destroy and hand over anti India insurgents lodged in their territory. In the failure of the above, India launches a full scale offensive on ULFA in NE as well as inside Bangladesh territory. If the World reacts, it will be a good fortune for India. India has enough evidence of how terrorists are striking India from across the border and how Bangladesh is offering a safe sanctuary to these groups. India should come out of it's puppet like spineless existence. If it wants to be a superpower in the next 2 decades it should behave like one. What is the use of spending so much of national wealth on defense if it can't even protect it's own borders. Look at Israel, it launched a full scale offensive against Lebanon to rescue 2 of it's soldiers from Hezbollah. On 27/05/2007, at 7:06 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote: >> >Should a Govt continue in business if a group of a few thousand > ( <3000) can hold the state to ransom with their cowardly tactics? > > > *** Good question. Should it? I would not even go into the choice > of adjectives here. > > And if not, what should be done and who should ? > > Finally, HOW will that be stopped? WHO will do that ? > > > > At 6:08 PM +0800 5/26/07, Jyotirmoy Sharma wrote: >> Just as we talk the cowards have struck again in Fancy Bazar, >> Guwahati. >> Should a Govt continue in business if a group of a few thousand >> ( <3000) can hold the state to ransom with their cowardly tactics? >> JS >> >> _______________________________________________ >> assam mailing list >> assam@assamnet.org >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org > _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Nayanjyoti Medhi Advocate Gauhati High Court Chamber: Satya Bora Lane, Dighalipukhuri East Guwahati-781001, Assam Residence: 8, Chandan Nagar Bye Lane-2 Basistha Road, Guwahati-28 Assam Phone: +91 361 2416960 +91 94350 43007 +91 99547 13443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Nayanjyoti Medhi Advocate Gauhati High Court Chamber: Satya Bora Lane, Dighalipukhuri East Guwahati-781001, Assam Residence: 8, Chandan Nagar Bye Lane-2 Basistha Road, Guwahati-28 Assam Phone: +91 361 2416960 +91 94350 43007 +91 99547 13443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org -- Nayanjyoti Medhi Advocate Gauhati High Court Chamber: Satya Bora Lane, Dighalipukhuri East Guwahati-781001, Assam Residence: 8, Chandan Nagar Bye Lane-2 Basistha Road, Guwahati-28 Assam Phone: +91 361 2416960 +91 94350 43007 +91 99547 13443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nayanjyoti Medhi Advocate Gauhati High Court Chamber: Satya Bora Lane, Dighalipukhuri East Guwahati-781001, Assam Residence: 8, Chandan Nagar Bye Lane-2 Basistha Road, Guwahati-28 Assam Phone: +91 361 2416960 +91 94350 43007 +91 99547 13443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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