>Flexcube which is a Banking Software and considered No 1 Banking >Software in the World ...
*** I am most impressed. It was my abject ignorance that caused me to overlook such an ingenious, earth-shattering desi-contribution to human civilization. Now if only 30% desis had a bank account to play with, we just might laugh all the way to the bank. Desi-creativity and desi-ingenuity, thy name is Krishnendu! At 3:57 PM -0700 8/25/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: > > *** Yes, they do depend on them , to a degree. You >> don't get to go >> to to topmost schools on the basis of SAT or GRE >> scores alone. There > > >What you are admiting is these tests are the "primary" >criteria. You may consider other aspects but will your >top school consider a student who scores extreme low >in SAT/GRE etc? >Since Indian students trained through Indian Education >scores good in these exams, by your argument I assume >these tests are designed to test the rote memory. > >> And if I was NOT wrong, can I still be right with >> relying on easily >> verifiable info available there? > > >As a matter of fact, you swing per your convenience. >For example, when Indian Press writes against your >views, you decry Indian Press but again when you find >a article criticizing India you are the first one to >highlight it. >If you think some info is easily verifiable, why pick >it from Wiki, why not from authoratative sources? > >> *** First off, it is NOT my education system. But it >> is a far far >> better one than the Indian one in many aspects. >> Education has many >> aspects, as ought to be clear to the educated. There >> are some aspects >> in which SOME Indian institutions do quite well. >> Math for example. >> But math excellence is not the be-all and end all of >> education. Nor >> is Physics or Chemistry or Stats or what have you. >> >> Indian institutions do produce reliable workers. >> But show us a few >> that helped change India's conditions with their >> creativity or their >> ingenuity. > > >Let me put the question again -- >"HOW Indians from Indian Educational System come up >with flying colurs in US Schools?" >As per changing India's condition, people whose eyes >are not covered with blind hatred against India should >be able to easily see how India is moving ahead >...... and I do not see a foregin hand behind this. > >> >> *** How about an encore to enlighten an English >> language challenged >> fellow kharkhowa? I must have missed it, if not >> failed to comprehend >> its complexities. >> > >Probably it will not make any impact on an American >but I cited two examples --- Flexcube which is a >Banking Software and considered No 1 Banking Software >in the World ... and automation of Indian stock >exchange .... but again, why would an American care if >Indian export increases, the Indian market shines and >key International players make a beeline to invest in >India. >Just check the top Mutual Funds of US and most of >those invests heavily in India because , unlike you, >they believe in Indian Growth story. > >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >**** I thought SAT, GRE, GMAT, USMLE all are US >> tests >> ... so your education system also depends on tests. >> >> >> *** Yes, they do depend on them , to a degree. You >> don't get to go >> to to topmost schools on the basis of SAT or GRE >> scores alone. There >> again are nuances. Most big name schools would >> consider a LDC >> student, even if she can't quite measure up to the >> standards their US >> counterparts to get in. That is how many Indian >> students get in to >> Harvard, MIT, etc. , even though they might not >> quite measure up to >> the other intangibles that they weigh as predictors >> of a likelihood >> for success. So, unlike Indian dedication to ' >> testocracy' ( you >> heard it here first ) as the most sophisticated tool >> as a predictor >> of success, the US system has other tools they use. >> >> However I won't hold that against you. One has to > > learn somewhere. I did too. >> >> **** But creativity is NOT an essential item in >> these calculations. >> Because society does require skilled grunts as well. >> Reliable number >> crunchers, accurate paper-pushers, shrewd >> manipulators -- all have a > > place in society; any society. But those societies >> who have shined, >> moved ahead in the world also had those creative >> thinkers and doers >> in their midst who could think outside the box as >> the cliche' goes >> and break new ground, without which you get what >> India is. While the >> jury is still out as to how creativity can be >> inculcated, there are >> widely accepted means out there, producing results. >> And math. tables >> are not it. >> >> >> > Inspite of your citing numerous wiki sites (BTW >> >> >> *** Was I wrong in decrying Wiki being accepted as >> the authority? >> What is your opinion? >> And if I was NOT wrong, can I still be right with >> relying on easily >> verifiable info available there? >> Those appear contradictory only to the simple >> minded. I would have >> hoped you are a cut above. >> >> >> >> >you could not explain HOW Indians come up in flying >> colours under >> >YOUR education system or WHY >youreducation system >> DOES NOT test >> >for creativity >> >> >> *** First off, it is NOT my education system. But it >> is a far far >> better one than the Indian one in many aspects. >> Education has many >> aspects, as ought to be clear to the educated. There >> are some aspects >> in which SOME Indian institutions do quite well. >> Math for example. >> But math excellence is not the be-all and end all of >> education. Nor >> is Physics or Chemistry or Stats or what have you. >> >> Indian institutions do produce reliable workers. >> But show us a few >> that helped change India's conditions with their >> creativity or their >> ingenuity. >> >> >BTW, I have earlier cited Indian innovations which >> you probably >> >could not comprehend .... >> >> *** How about an encore to enlighten an English >> language challenged >> fellow kharkhowa? I must have missed it, if not >> failed to comprehend >> its complexities. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 10:09 AM -0700 8/25/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty >> wrote: >> > > *** That would be the response of someone who >> cannot >> > > IMAGINE anything >> >> beyond 'teaching and testing'. >> > >> >**** I thought SAT, GRE, GMAT, USMLE all are US >> tests >> >... so your education system also depends on tests. >> >And what they test for ? To check how good a >> person >> >can rote? And a person who shines in these tests >> (has >> >exceptional rote memory) goes to the best Schools. >> > >> >>>>Desi-teaching is entirely devoid of introducing >> the >> >creative process: Of analyzing, hypothesizing, >> finding >> >solutions different from the expected or the given. >> > >> >***** Inspite of your citing numerous wiki sites >> (BTW >> >was it you who decried wiki a couple of days back >> ?) >> >you could not explain HOW Indians come up in flying >> >colours under YOUR education system or WHY your >> >education system DOES NOT test for creativity. >> > >> >As usual, you are twisting, drifting away from >> >original question. >> > >> >BTW, I have earlier cited Indian innovations which >> >you probably could not comprehend .... damned >> English >> >:) >> > >> >>They can do great >> >> math, >> > >> >Was it you who said that Indian Math foundation is >> >weak ?? >> > >> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 9:34 AM -0700 8/25/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty >> >> wrote: >> >> >hmmm... I am missing something .... >> >> > >> >> >so in your ideal education system you teach >> >> something >> >> >and test for something else ? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *** That would be the response of someone who >> cannot >> >> IMAGINE anything >> >> beyond 'teaching and testing'. >> >> >> >> Goes to prove my point again and again. >> >> >> >> Desi-teaching is entirely devoid of introducing >> the >> >> creative process: >> >> Of analyzing, hypothesizing, finding solutions >> >> different from the >> >> expected or the given. >> >> >> >> It has become a cultural marker. They can do >> great >> >> math, play >> >> walking encyclopedias , be great spelling bees, > > do >> >> complex >> >> engineering computations. But look at India's >> >> innovations , >> >> creativity. There is nothing to show for , even >> with >> >> all that > > >> brain-power crunching numbers or writing complex >> >> codes. >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> Your arguments are perfect illustrations. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now try this too: >> >> >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity#History_of_the_term_and_the_concept >> >=== message truncated === > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________Ready > >for the edge of your seat? >Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. >http://tv.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
