Hi Alpana Ba, Mayawati is the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh. Supposedly comes from a lower caste and all her life targeted upper castes. But in the last election she decided to become all inclusive and fielded record number of brahmin candidates. She won with absolute majority.
Regards, Sandip ----- Original Message ---- From: Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <assam@assamnet.org> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:06:41 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] My Allergies >in assam the new generation is mixing with vigor like never before. my own >family has people from various tribes, religions, castes> >>.(high/low); and >such things don't matter any more. You are right, Manoj. The parents and the grandparents still gripe about it, but most young people don't care about it anymore. BTW, I didn't understand the 'mayawati' reference. “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” - Lakshmana Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:21:09 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] My Allergies societal changes are dynamic. dominants are also becoming smart, as felt by c'da, pointer to the case is 'mayawati'. instead of being pawns now they are using their own weightage to bargain their pound of flesh. education opened the window of opportunities, as they did for the indians during british period. in assam the new generation is mixing with vigor like never before. my own family has people from various tribes, religions, castes (high/low); and such things don't matter any more. -mkd On 10/19/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 3:01 PM +0100 10/19/07, uttam borthakur wrote: If it gives them solace, *** Solace is heavy. On a much lighter scale, it is PROGRESSIVE, period! And thus ought not to be a target of taunts of those who are unable to rid themselves of their own baggage, should it? it is surely good for them. Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 6:42 AM -0700 10/19/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote: "It seems the people born with caste hindu tags are making a bee-line to de-class themselves:-) " *** Is it good or bad? Should they too submit themselves to their fathers' sins? How rightly said :-)). So declassing has become a self-inflicted "allergy" now. Regards, Sandip ----- Original Message ---- From: uttam borthakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <assam@assamnet.org> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:17:02 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] My Allergies Dear Manoj You are correct. But in Assam and so in India, you will note that the ruling polity has changed from what it was before the British came and when they left. So, the caste -hindus as a 'class' ( some over -simplification is involved though) have been enjoying the fruits of that change since then, as the society has remained agarian and under-developed. But over time, the divested ones began to assert themselves and the results are noticeable in 'Mandal' and such schisms. (It is an oversimplification again). Also the winds of change that is blowing in the economy may qualitatively change this picture in the coming days. If you look at Assam,its frequent divisions into smaller units, transition from Bordolye to Sinha to Saikia and then to Mahanta again, various ethnicities asserting themselves etc. indicate the shape of the things. But again, some people want to equate castes with economic classes, which may be an over-simplification. It seems the people born with caste hindu tags are making a bee-line to de-class themselves:-) Sense of guilt my dear, sense of guilt. You'll find it in the deepest niches of your heart, however hard you try to deny it. Manoj Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: we cannot really generalise. birth is a pure accident..:) mkd On 10/18/07, SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: C'da, OK got it. But whats wrong in being a Hindu? Why is it sordid and something not so nice to be - if thats how you look at it? Regards, Sandip ----- Original Message ---- From: Chan Mahanta < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world <assam@assamnet.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:19:25 PM Subject: [Assam] My Allergies You may or may not be aware of the fact that I was born a caste Hindu. One slightly higher in the food chain than some and lower than the demigods. So I know ALL I ever needed to know about caste Hindus and their sordid but not-so-secret ways. And Bengalis had nothing to do with it, even though I have many fine and close Bengali friends who have told me of their Hindu baggage, which I have no doubt, is much heavier and more soiled than the kharkhowa caste-Hindus', and does not make it lighter or cleaner even if it was brought out in the open in vivid colors by the Naxals and assorted 'leftists'., however vile they might seem to the children of the superior gods. C'da, Just one question out of curiosity. You mentioned in one of your emails that you were living in West Bengal before you left India. Did you pick up your allergies towards caste hindu/hindutwa and all the associated ideas over there. I understand that Naxalism was just beginning to take root there at that time. Seems you are caught in that time wrap and your present ideas have its foundation from what you saw or experienced? Regards, Sandip __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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