Though her purpose was to win, she is doing some good then!
As long as she takes care of the other things for her people.
Thanks for the information, Sandip.
Manoj also explained things about Mayawati to me - I had never heard of her
before though I try to keep myself abreast with what is going on in India by
watching the news at Zee.
- Alpana Ba
“We can never obtain peace in the world if we neglect the inner world and don't
make peace with ourselves. World peace must develop out of inner peace.”- Dalai
Lama
“In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble
like a blade of grass”
- Lakshmana
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:02:24 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] My Allergies
Hi Alpana Ba,
Mayawati is the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh. Supposedly comes from a lower
caste and all her life targeted upper castes. But in the last election she
decided to become all inclusive and fielded record number of brahmin
candidates. She won with absolute majority.
Regards,
Sandip
----- Original Message ----From: Alpana B. Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: A
Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
<assam@assamnet.org>Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:06:41 AMSubject: Re:
[Assam] My Allergies
>in assam the new generation is mixing with vigor like never before. my own
>family has people from various tribes, religions, castes> >>.(high/low); and
>such things don't matter any more. You are right, Manoj. The parents and the
>grandparents still gripe about it, but most young people don't care about it
>anymore. BTW, I didn't understand the 'mayawati' reference.
“In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble
like a blade of grass”
- Lakshmana
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:21:09 +0530From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: Re: [Assam] My Allergiessocietal changes are dynamic. dominants are
also becoming smart, as felt by c'da, pointer to the case is 'mayawati'.
instead of being pawns now they are using their own weightage to bargain their
pound of flesh. education opened the window of opportunities, as they did for
the indians during british period. in assam the new generation is mixing with
vigor like never before. my own family has people from various tribes,
religions, castes (high/low); and such things don't matter any more.-mkd
On 10/19/07, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 3:01 PM +0100 10/19/07, uttam borthakur wrote:
If it gives them solace,
*** Solace is heavy. On a much lighter scale, it is PROGRESSIVE, period!
And thus ought not to be a target of taunts of those who are unable to rid
themselves of their own baggage, should it?
it is surely good for them.Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 6:42 AM -0700 10/19/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
"It seems the people born with caste hindu tags are making a bee-line to
de-class themselves:-) "
*** Is it good or bad? Should they too submit themselves to their fathers' sins?
How rightly said :-)). So declassing has become a self-inflicted "allergy" now.
Regards,
Sandip
----- Original Message ----From: uttam borthakur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: A
Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
<assam@assamnet.org>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:17:02 PMSubject: Re:
[Assam] My Allergies
Dear Manoj
You are correct. But in Assam and so in India, you will note that the ruling
polity has changed from what it was before the British came and when they left.
So, the caste -hindus as a 'class' ( some over -simplification is involved
though) have been enjoying the fruits of that change since then, as the society
has remained agarian and under-developed. But over time, the divested ones
began to assert themselves and the results are noticeable in 'Mandal' and such
schisms. (It is an oversimplification again). Also the winds of change that is
blowing in the economy may qualitatively change this picture in the coming
days. If you look at Assam,its frequent divisions into smaller units,
transition from Bordolye to Sinha to Saikia and then to Mahanta again, various
ethnicities asserting themselves etc. indicate the shape of the things. But
again, some people want to equate castes with economic classes, which may be an
over-simplification.
It seems the people born with caste hindu tags are making a bee-line to
de-class themselves:-) Sense of guilt my dear, sense of guilt. You'll find it
in the deepest niches of your heart, however hard you try to deny it. Manoj Das
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
we cannot really generalise. birth is a pure accident..:)mkd
On 10/18/07, SANDIP DUTTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
C'da,
OK got it. But whats wrong in being a Hindu? Why is it sordid and something not
so nice to be - if thats how you look at it?
Regards,
Sandip
----- Original Message ----From: Chan Mahanta < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: A Mailing
list for people interested in Assam from around the world <assam@assamnet.org
>Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:19:25 PMSubject: [Assam] My Allergies
You may or may not be aware of the fact that I was born a caste Hindu. One
slightly higher in the food chain than some and lower than the demigods. So I
know ALL I ever needed to know about caste Hindus and their sordid but
not-so-secret ways.
And Bengalis had nothing to do with it, even though I have many fine and close
Bengali friends who have told me of their Hindu baggage, which I have no doubt,
is much heavier and more soiled than the kharkhowa caste-Hindus', and does not
make it lighter or cleaner even if it was brought out in the open in vivid
colors by the Naxals and assorted 'leftists'., however vile they might seem to
the children of the superior gods.
C'da,
Just one question out of curiosity. You mentioned in one of your emails that
you were living in West Bengal before you left India. Did you pick up your
allergies towards caste hindu/hindutwa and all the associated ideas over there.
I understand that Naxalism was just beginning to take root there at that time.
Seems you are caught in that time wrap and your present ideas have its
foundation from what you saw or experienced?
Regards,
Sandip
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