I am not familiar with the term 'koot-torko', but in this context, could it be disingenuous arguments :-)?
On Aug 24, 2010, at 10:52 AM, uttam borthakur wrote: > > Ram Da, > I thought I was weighing a sort of balanced view, when I pointed out two > possibilities: that the rape news was either plugged or may be wholly/ > partially true. But you seem to have told me that I should take only one > view.: that rape news is true. > While the report on Supreme Court judgment reported in the TOI can be > verified from the records of the Court and reports of the cases used for > precedents; you perhaps cannot verify the authenticity of a reporter alleging > rape by Kishanji or his camp followers. And if you are not too biased, you > surely know what 'plugging' is in journalistic term, as I remember learning > the term long ago from the notorious novel The Fountainhead in my teens. Does > that mean each and every item in a news paper has to be 'plugged'? You simply > cannot report that MMS has become a Naxal today; but you may always report > that from a reliable source you have learnt that there is going to be a > cabinet reshuffle. The first one would make you lose credibility, which a > paper like TOI cannot afford; and the second it can always report without > losing credibility, as it is not verifiable. In Assam, at this moment, > NEWSLIVE owned by Himanta Biswa Sarma has to report Okhil Gogoi's > meetings; but it also publishes hearsay that everyone speaking about Sri > Gogoi having sold his soul to Himanta Biswa Sarma for a sum of Rs.2 crores, > which is not verifiable. > Why are you snaring me into a debate that takes us away from the core issues? > Your second remark is also full of holes. Yes, Kishanji may not hold a court > of inquiry against himself; that is why I said that if the Naxals/ Maoists > fail to bring the guilty (whoever it is) to book, then they will lose support > base in no time. Where did I go wrong? What new dimension have you added to > what I said, but you are giving an impression that I had told something > childish. > It has taken 23 years to reach the Supreme Court a 'question' of > compensation to displaced people, who had been displaced by the Government, > that should have been settled by the Government, which claims to represent > the people in a democracy.Except one with blinkers shall spread the angelic > message around that " look, look, it may be justice delayed, but not justice > denied; the beauty of the Indian judiciary that still works in this thriving > democracy". > > > > > > Ram Sarangapani assamrs at gmail.com > Tue Aug 24 09:35:04 IST 2010Previous message: [Assam] The Naxal/Maoist > Movement, Part 2?Next message: [Assam] I am not opposed to talks: ULFA > leaderMessages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]Dear > Uttam, > > >> There may be two possibilities. (1) The story is state propaganda and (2) > The story may be true, partially or wholly. >> If it is a propaganda, > > Ah, yes. I had plum forgotten about that distinct possibility about the TOI > making this whole thing (no doubt egged on by the state machinery). > > So, Uttam, what about the other stories (from the TOI)? Should we discount > them...? I think, I'll just cherry pick. That suits me quite well. > >> If it is true, partially or wholly, then the Naxals/ Maoists would lose > support if those guilty of the crimes are not brought to books and awarded >> exemplary punishments either by their own courts, > > The problem, Uttam, is that (according to the story), it is the leaders who > are the ones committing the rapes. I am not really sure they will be really > gung ho on some kind of court (to punish the guilty). > >> BTW: 2000 farmers from Chattisgarh in the meanwhile have petitioned the > President asking for permission to commit suicide, because of hunger. > > Hunger and poverty are real issues, and I certainly think these have to be > addressed in all seriousness. > > But tell me something, why would potential suiciders (as GW Bush loved to > say) want to take the permission from anyone. > If the president gave her assent, would they go ahead? > > Mass suicides are organized, and quite possibly lead by some political hack. > But I do believe there are genuine cases, > which may be in the 100s at least, and do need governmental intervention. > > --Ram da > > Uttam Kumar Borthakur > > _______________________________________________ > assam mailing list > assam@assamnet.org > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org _______________________________________________ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
