--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Sorry ... could not get anyone even during my
> recent
> >trip to Guwahati ......  I though you would know
> but
> >looks like your one point agenda is to blame Delhi
> >even though you cannot establish a reason.
> 
> 
> *** If my views are without merit, why get so worked
> up about it? On the
> other hand, if what I am saying makes sense, then I
> can see why some folks
> would get real upset.
> 

The same goes for you .... why are you so upset if
my/KJD/DD's view are without merit ?
Bottomline is ... if you love your country/state you
get irritated when someone try to promote seccession
without showing any reason.

Once again ,  You failed to show How and When the
people of Assam was barred to discuss with Delhi
regarding their problems (you now know ,  to discuss
Seccession is ILLEGAL both in India and USA).

> 
> >You said that people of Assam DOES NOT have a way
> to
> >show if they buy or do not buy ULFA's idea of
> >seccession .    What I am saying is ... if they buy
> >the idea ,  why do not they boycott the election as
> >requested by ULFA ..... why are  they disobeying
> ULFA
> >and promoting Indian Democracy.
> 
> *** Just like in the recent Kashmir polls, in the
> absence of other
> alternatives, if the people boycott the polls, the
> only certainty is that
> they might end up getting something they REALLY
> don't want. So the people
> go picking the least evil.
> 

Why was it then the Assamese people boycot the poll
during Assam Agitation .... was not it because they
supported the Agitation ?
And if ULFA (and you)  is so certain  about the
support why do not they contest the polls .....


> 
> >I just saw some posting the other day that their
> are
> >some groups who want to seccede ... also ,  I hear
> in
> >US that there are some Texan groups who want to
> >seccede ....  however the argument is immaterial
> ....
> 
> 
> *** That was a very astute observation.

What exactly ... that there are no seccessionist
groups in US   or they do not have enough public
support.  If you do not allow a FREE and FAIR Public
debate and Vote etc.   how can you draw the conclusion
that they do not have public support.

> 
 
> >But just try to put an article stating you want to
> >seccede  and let us know how US govt treats you .
> 
> *** Newspapers are not exactly there to give
> exposure to wackos.

So it is wacky to promote seccession in US but not so
in India .....  right you are !

> USA has the freedoms, and checks and balances,
> better than most in the
> world. And their institutions of democracy work, by
> and large. Therefore
> disaffection does not find a fertile enough ground
> to take roots and grow.
> 
> That is the difference between the Indian empire and
> US democracy.

Your argument was ... to talk about Seccession is
ILLEGAL in INDIA ......   and I just showed that in
your GREAT  DEMOCRACY  too it is ILLEGAL ....the
freedom which you enjoy is no different then the
freedon that one have in India.



> 
> 
> 
> Best.
> 
> 
> cm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 8:26 AM -0800 11/20/02, Krishnendu Chakraborty
> wrote:
> >--- Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> >even though you try to establish that seccession
> is
> >> >the ONLY solution to Assam's problems.
> >>
> >> *** Yes, under the existing circumstances, that
> is
> >> ONE of the possible ways
> >> out of the morass Assam is in, but NOT the ONLY
> one.
> >
> >NOT Neccassarrily your view is the RIGHT one ...
> there
> >are many WHO do not subscribe to your views  ....
> the
> >free discussion starts right here.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >Why bother discussing it if YOU do NOT represent
> >> the
> >> >people of Assam and their condition ..... is it
> an
> >> >American phenomenon .
> >>
> >> ***  Why don't you try and answer that yourself?
> And
> >> reflect on how
> >> much sense your question makes.
> >>
> >It makes sense .... a person who has a little
> >connection to his home country/state will NOT
> >understand the problems .....  How many common
> >Assamese people have you come accross in recent
> days
> >...  how many have you interviewed regarding their
> >opinion ?
> >
> >>
> >> >When and where did it happen ?
> >>
> >> *** Go and ask someone in Guahati. Any old fool
> can
> >> set you straight.
> >>
> >
> >Sorry ... could not get anyone even during my
> recent
> >trip to Guwahati ......  I though you would know
> but
> >looks like your one point agenda is to blame Delhi
> >even though you cannot establish a reason.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> >Is
> >> >it because GOI is not willing to discuss
> seccession
> >> >with ULFA ?  I do not know of any group
> approaching
> >> >GOI for a discussion (except ULFA on their
> >> >pre-condition ... but you say ULFA does not have
> >> the
> >> >final say).
> >>
> >> *** It is NOT about ULFA, it is about the people
> of
> >> Assam.
> >>
> >> If ULFA's plans for the people of Assam resonate
> >> with them, let them come
> >> out and register it.
> >
> >So why are they NOT coming out ... per your quote
> >"ULFA's plans for the people of Assam resonate
> >DOES NOT  with them "
> >
> >
> >>And if it does NOT , as
> >> asserted by certain Netters,
> >> let them register that. Let there be a free and
> >> unfetterd  debate . Why is
> >> INdia and the Indian nationalists so afraid of
> >> letting that happen? What is
> >> their problem?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >> ** It is illegal to ADVOCATE seccession. Try
> and
> >> >> maker a case for it,
> >> >> and see if you get away with it, without POTA
> >> >> crawling all over you.
> >> >
> >> >Did people boycott the general election as they
> did
> >> >during Agitation ?  I guess boycotting election
> >> would
> >> >not invite POTA ... or would  it ?
> >>
> >>
> >> *** That is NOT what I wrote. The govt. of India
> >> does NOT allow the
> >> discussion of seccession. Therefore Assam cannot
> >> have a free and unfetterd
> >> debate about  the issue.
> >
> >You said that people of Assam DOES NOT have a way
> to
> >show if they buy or do not buy ULFA's idea of
> >seccession .    What I am saying is ... if they buy
> >the idea ,  why do not they boycott the election as
> >requested by ULFA ..... why are  they disobeying
> ULFA
> >and promoting Indian Democracy.
> 
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