Umesh,
I am not really understanding your question. I was not
prescribing any leadership role, nor did I think it
was a strategy.
-- Ram da
--- umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ram-da,
>
> I agree but who will take a leadership role with
> this strategy?
> I am asking questions only, since asnwers lie with
> those who are affected by it.
>
> Umesh
>
> ram Sarangapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Umesh,
>
> There are many reasons for any kind of unrest. Many
> of
> the root causes are because of economics. without
> growth and development, there are fewer jobs,
> businesses don't thrive well and so. Then there
> arises
> questions like 'have we been overlooked' or why did
> xyz area get these benefits (and not us).
>
> In fact if you look into the main reasons why a
> number
> of ethinic groups are demanding that they be
> declared
> as scheduled caste/tribe or OBC, you will find
> economic factors again. These groups (right or
> wrong)
> want certain quotas to benefiit them for
> jobs/education. And they may have a valid case as
> many
> such were marginalized at some point.
>
> My point simply is this. Unrests arise more often
> than
> not because of economic problems. Later on many such
> movements will try to rationalize this as being
> patriotic, religious or even color.
>
> What galls me is that some are still trying to
> justify
> some of these by totally discounting economics and
> potraying it as something else.
>
> However, I do think other factors like ethinicity,
> religion, language etc all contribute to unrest. But
> if the economics were right, few groups would want
> to
> get off the gravy train.
>
> Why don't we see insurgent groups in any of the
> advanced countries? Do you believe, any any of them
> would want to break away from success? There are of
> course cases like some groups in Texas who want
> their
> own homeland (Texas) - but most will agree they are
> off the deep end.
>
> --Ram da
>
> --- umesh sharma wrote:
>
> > To an extent I agree with Ram-da.
> >
> > But birds don't want to live in golden cages
> either
> > - if you make it too stifling for them.
> >
> > For example, this Earth is our cage but we don't
> > want to leave it, but if we are confined to our
> room
> > only -we would start jumping - even with all the
> > delicacies and sensual pleasures at our disposal.
> >
> > I don't know where we all stand on this.
> >
> > Umesh
> >
> > Ram-da wrote:
> >
> > economic problems are the root cause of
> > alienations, specially in the case of the NE.
> >
> > If Assam/NE was a well-developed area, there would
> > be
> > far fewer young men/women wanting to join some
> > insurgent group.
> >
> > ram Sarangapani wrote:
> > C'da
> >
> >
> > >Will featuring in the national anthem salve
> > > those kharkhowa hurts, if not eradicate them?
> >
> > Thats a big jumb to conclusions. Nobody has said
> > that.
> > You are just putting words into my mouth.
> >
> > > Does not even rhyme. It would be a an anthem
> > > singer's nightmare.
> >
> > Heh! heh! heh!. You seemed to have done a pretty
> > good
> > job. I will buy your rendition any time -:)
> >
> > >Incidentally, one of the most glaring omissions
> or
> > >ignorances some of you demonstrated last week
> about
> > >Assam's alienations were your beliefs that it was
> > >all about economic development or lack of it.
> > >Shows how much you guys are out of it.
> >
> > So, please do tell us (wayward folks) whats it all
> > about (other than economics).
> >
> > IMHO, economic problems are the root cause of
> > alienations, specially in the case of the NE. You,
> > yourself have lobbed numerous salvos at the
> Center,
> > the Hindi-belt etc for the lack of development or
> > growth in the NE.
> > What about the ULFA or other insurgent groups in
> the
> > NE? What MOTIVATED them to want a separation?
> > Are you telling me that it was all because of
> > 'identity', 'patriotism' etc.
> >
> > If Assam/NE was a well-developed area, there would
> > be
> > far fewer young men/women wanting to join some
> > insurgent group. Identity, patriotism etc do play
> a
> > role. In my opinion, they help form cohesion,
> > Assamesenss, or to basically to go rah, rah (feel
> > good) and garner support for a movement.
> >
> > I think, for all your belief in 'substance', you
> > have
> > forgotten the ROOT problems of lack of
> > development/growth, the other major factor is the
> > need
> > to have 'power'.
> >
> > If you were to look into most of the
> > infractions/insurgencies have root causes in
> > economics
> > or power plays. Religion too has played a role.
> But
> > even there the root cause somehow points to
> > economics.
> >
> > Lastly,
> > >But can having a statue of Lachit Borphukan, a
> > >symbolic recognition of kharkhowa martial legacy
> > >in the military academy at Vizag substitute such
> > > aspirations?
> >
> > So, what is this 'substance' that you seek. Its
> not
> > these mundane things like statues, awards, a slap
> on
> > the back - that we understand. Its not even
> economic
> > development.
> > Assamese identity couldn't be a reason, 'cause
> that
> > identity will more than likely dissappear where
> > Assam
> > gets independence or not.
> >
> > What is it, just plain old independence,
> > come hell or highwater?
> >
> > --Ram
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Chan Mahanta wrote:
> >
> > > Ram:
> > >
> > >
> > > >There are many in the NE and other states that
> > > believe
> > > >that they have been given a raw deal by the
> > Center.
> > >
> > > *** Do you think there is any reason for it, or
> > are
> > > they just cry
> > > babies as some of you seem to believes?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >But the METHODS or processes of redressing
> these
>
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