O' Rajen:
oti xoj kotha, oti xoj kotha!!!
Tumi kothatw olop thatta kori kola jen lagise dei.
Something tells me you were being sarcastic about the
comment.
But that would not help all the others who are unaware of the
climatic and/or geological conditions of Florida, like Anjan for
example. Or for that matter Umesh ,even though he is at Harvard
and thus might have decided that he knows all about the US that he
needs to know to compare Assam and Florida's climatic and/or soil
conditions.
They will keep thinking that Rajen Barua - a long time US
resident and highly trained and accomplished petroleum
Engineer's--sarcasm might mean that he knows something differently
from Sondon - the 'sob-janta' ( omniscient)-wanna-be.
Wouldn't you do them a favor and educate them by sharing what you
know differently , instead of leaving an impression, like one of our
erstwhile Kamrupi linguists here in Assam net used to do: never
explain but leave an impression that he knows the deep dark truths
while those he cast aspersions on don't ?
I know you mean well. So help educate everyone. It will be 'aairw
barta-gongarw jatra'--kill two birds at one shot: Prove your point and
give Sondon the 'sunga-sai-xwpa'( tit-for-tat), by demonstrating to
the desi-patriots that he doesn't know his whatsmacallit from a hole
in the ground?
:-) :-) :-)
c
At 12:00 AM -0500 4/14/05, Barua25 wrote:
oti xoj kotha, oti xoj kotha!!!
----- Original Message -----From: Chan MahantaTo: umesh sharma ; Anjan K. Nath ; [email protected]Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:12 PMSubject: Re: [Assam] Ananta-da: roads in assam-Florida, Taiwan etc engeenersFlorida climatic and soil conditions are NOTHING like Assam's.Only a highly geographically challenged person would even attempt to compare the two. It reminds me of the story of the group of blind people attempting to describe an elephant by feel. Much like NRA experts in Assam Net attempting to pass judgement on everything from linguistics to religion to philosophy to civil engineering to democratic governance.At 2:24 AM +0100 4/14/05, umesh sharma wrote:
it is for Ananta-da. The title might create confusion since it has two simultaneous mails by Anjan-da.
"Anjan K. Nath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Umesh,
When you mention Florida, Ananta Nath comes to mind. He is a Civil Engineer and maybe he can chip in with his expertise.
Ananta, are you reading all this.
Anjan
----- Original Message -----
From: umesh sharma
To: Anjan K. Nath ; Barua25 ; Alpana B. Sarangapani ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected] ; Chan Mahanta
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] roads in assam-Florida, Taiwan etc engeeners
Anjan-da,
It seems it all boils to down to expertise in the field of road construction - proven expertise. Why not get Assamese youth to get expertise in developed nations - in civil engg - thru sponsorships or sholarships? Most likely they may not come back to Assam after graduation -- but they would have expertise - which could be utilized.
I'd like to see Assamese at Harvard Grad. School of Education and Harvard's Kennedy School of Govt --so that some youth not only develop expertise but also connections.
Delhi-walas treat all states equally bad - except perhaps UP and Punjab. How do you think Delhi-wlas behave when thry visit Rajasthan or MP -- I think with same disdain as when visiting Assam - I am talking not only of politicians or bureaucrats but even ordianry folks from "Grand Delhi."
The only way to break their strangle hold over public projects - is to have "branded expertise" way above what Delhi-walahs have. Delhi-walahs salute US univ. degrees - behold their fauning to Cambridge Univ and Harvard drop-outs (Rajiv-Sonia & Rahul Gandhi family) even.
Climate of Assam resembles many parts of developed world - we ould learn how they are managing the situation - given the special demands of climate - rain and flodds etc - Florida comes to my mind. US based retired folks could turn their attention in this direction (or those active in the field).
My humble submission.
Umesh
"Anjan K. Nath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chan,
Take heart man, things are going right and all is well with the roads in
Guwahati, at least.
I suppose some of us are not aware that the major roads of Guwahati are now
being maintained by a private company and that the money is disbursed
directly from Central funds. Only the smaller roads and "municipal" roads
are now "supposedly" looked after by the PWD (People With Disabilities).
So, in a way, Rajasthan has come to Assam.
Again, the stretch of the National Highway that runs from the Beltola area
to Jhalukbari (10 km or so) has been constructed by an "outside"
construction company under NHI specifications and it is standing up to the
test of the Assamese soil and rain (so far at least). I would have liked to
see the road elevated slightly more, but then ... who am I to question it.
Remember the time when the ! ! PWD went into throes over this issue and the PWD
Minister and Secretary PWD announced in the Legislative Assembly that the
Assam PWD was fully capable of "road construction" and disbursing the Rs
1,000 cr allocated for the purpose. There were so many "letters to the
editors" of the various newspapers laughing at the PWD that they did not
dare protest any further as the contract went out to the "foreigners" with
"proven track records."
No, you are not wrong in thinking in that vein. It is actually happening.
Now we can call bandhs, blow up a few bridges, disrupt public life, and say
that Delhi treats us in a step-motherly fashion. Or what next?
Anjan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chan Mahanta"
To: "Barua25" ; "Alpana B. Sarangapani"
; ;
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:23 AM
Subject: R! e: [A! ssam] roads in assam
> Oooh, looks like I touched a raw nerve :-).
>
> But the theory of 'People are Bad, the System is Fine', is not mine. I
> like to receive credit for credit-worthy things, but can't take credit for
> what is not my discovery or invention.
>
> Since Assam road conditions have been firmly attributed to the absence of
> morality among the people of Assam, its politicians, its PWD and
> ineptitude of Assam Civil Engineers and no mention was made of the system
> that promotes and sustains such attributes; one would have to conclude the
> Assamese are not qualified to build their roads and do not deserve to
> govern itself.
>
> Under the circumstances, would it NOT be reasonable to entrust Assam's
> road work with people with proven track-records, such as Rajasthanis or
> Delhiwallas?
>
> Or could there be some fallacy in this thought p! rocess! ? If there is, what
> is it?
> What then would be the AMENDED theory of 'People are Bad, the System is
> Fine'?
>
> Can't wait to hear that :-).
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