Title: Re: [Assam] The meek shall be homeless -II
>People have been crying hoarse over these for decades.
 
As I told before. Assamese people are at least good at crying. Unfortunately, that is all they seem to do.
No we donot want people to cry like children. We want to people to act like adults.
At least  Assamese people can stop electing and worshipping the same guy knowing fully well that he is corrupt and he is not giving them results, and then blaming the whole world for its woes.
Rajen
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Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] The meek shall be homeless -II

Dear BK:

>I find it is hardly necessary to respond to Chandan's observations point by point.

*** I understand. People have a pretty good idea by now about who would view my observations in what light, regardless of content :-).

>Acccording to my understanding he is making an effort to generate awareness among  the people so that everyone of >us does his or her civic duties and carry out the responsibilities entrusted upon us and above all, abide by the law in >doing so. Perhaps such an appeal is late in the day, but better late than never. 

*** Of course it is never too late to stand up for what is right. However what I take issue with is the implication that these are things heretofore unbeknownst to the people of Assam. It just so happens that nothing could be further from the truth. People have been crying hoarse over these for decades.


>I don't think he advocates an armed struggle to achieve the desired goal. He clearly wants a peaceful revolution within >the law. If my reading is incorrect, perhaps we may democratically decide the issue by asking DNB for a clarification.

*** I don't think that would really be necessary. I just made the point to underscore the naivete expressed and absence of substance in the article, Ram's perceptions to its greatness notwithstanding.

>It is correct that our democracy has not functioned the way it should. But Chandan himself agrees that parliamentary >democracy has within itself  built-in mechanism to correct itself. 

*** You make it sound like I have conceded the point under duress, forced to admit it kicking and screaming :-). But that has been the main point of my arguments on this matter, as it has been for years in Assam Net: the dysfunctional state of the essential institutions of democracy in the desi-avatar and the dire need for radical reforms.



>The other day I heard somebody saying that we criticise our parliamentarians vehemently but have the people ever >recalled a single one of them? They do change though at the end of their tenure. 

*** Of course the players  change. But does anything change in governance, in its performance? And if not, why not? Should that not raise a red flag in the minds of people who can reason?


>They do change though at the end of their tenure. I think it was Rabindranath Tagore who said that the person who >gives bribe is equally guilty as the taker of it. The unholy alliance between the constituency and the politician has to >break.



*** So the bribe giver is equally guilty now, because Robi Thakur said so? I really don't give two hoots about WHO said those wise words, but corruption
comes out of power. Those who have no power cannot exercise the same degree of corruption as those in power can. Yes, if there were effective and reliable recourse, then one could argue that bribe giver is equally guilty as the bribe seeker. But knowing what we do, this argument is patently untenable.

>What is a society? Who are the people? It is you and me.

*** Aah, the "we are all guilty--so can't we just forgive and forget?" argument!
But it is not a persuasive one.

>t is you and me. Whether it be an ULFA leader or Congress/BJP leader, they will have to work with the same public and >the same bureacracy.

*** That is the big flaw in the argument. No, a reformed governmental system will NOT have to deal with the same old, same old. That is the whole idea behind reforms. The AGP failed because they did not realize where the problem lies--in the flawed system. It me must be reformed, otherwise there will be no change, no matter who is at the wheel.


>Are the ULFA or for that any other insurgency leaders that great, dynamic, honest capable of leading the country to >peace and prosperity?


*** I am not in a position to speak on behalf of the ULFA.  But those who are ready to sacrifice their lives in defence of a goal, one might think, might be smart enough to realize that if they get power, they must not follow the same defective and dysfunctional ways of desi-demokrasy. That they must  put in place something better.

>Perhaps they can but we do not have any evidence of it.

*** Well, ever wondered why :-)? But what about the evidence of all those administrations that have come and gone?  What does that tell us? What proof does that hold up?


>Personally I believe in the powers and possibilities of a soveregin country provided it has the right leadership.

*** Fair enough. But if it is that simple, that things are as they are because there are no good leaders, then should it mean that there is no escape from how things are, that it is inevitable, that it is pre-ordained, engraved in Indian foreheads in accordance to Hindu mythology and fate shall play out, regardless?

>Some of the little countries have prospered beyond our dream.

*** What is their secret? Should we not explore that? Perhaps there are lessons to be learnt. Perhaps we ought to look at Singapore?  They too were a British colony, just like India. Should I ask, like our illustrious Assam Net intellectuals___why can't India be like Singapore? Because Indians are lazy and corrupt, is that why?


>At the same time an armed struggle against the Government of India to achieve social and economic salvation would >be unwise as it will bring in more death and destruction.

*** Armed struggle is NOT the CAUSE, it is an effect. Had there been a functioning democracy where the rulers could be expected to be responsive, and could be held accountable, more than likely armed struggle would not have happened. It happened because  people had no alternative left.


Regards,

c





At 1:18 PM -0400 4/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Netters
 
I find it is hardly necessary to respond to Chandan's observations point by point. Yes, DNB has not worked out how to fix the problem/s. Acccording to my understanding he is making an effort to generate awareness among  the people so that everyone of us does his or her civic duties and carry out the responsibilities entrusted upon us and above all, abide by the law in doing so. Perhaps such an appeal is late in the day, but better late than never. 
 
I don't think he advocates an armed struggle to achieve the desired goal. He clearly wants a peaceful revolution within the law. If my reading is incorrect, perhaps we may democratically decide the issue by asking DNB for a clarification. Alternatively, let's have a poll among ourselves, as what matters is whether independent of the author's own views, the impression we get from a reading of the piece is ambivalent.
 
It is correct that our democracy has not functioned the way it should. But Chandan himself agrees that parliamentary democracy has within itself  built-in mechanism to correct itself. The other day I heard somebody saying that we criticise our parliamentarians vehemently but have the people ever recalled a single one of them? They do change though at the end of their tenure. I think it was Rabindranath Tagore who said that the person who gives bribe is equally guilty as the taker of it. The unholy alliance between the constituency and the politician has to break.
 
What is a society? Who are the people? It is you and me. Whether it be an ULFA leader or Congress/BJP leader, they will have to work with the same public and the same bureacracy. Are the ULFA or for that any other insurgency leaders that great, dynamic, honest capable of leading the country to peace and prosperity? Perhaps they can but we do not have any evidence of it. Personally I believe in the powers and possibilities of a soveregin country provided it has the right leadership. Some of the little countries have prospered beyond our dream. At the same time an armed struggle against the Government of India to achieve social and economic salvation would be unwise as it will bring in more death and destruction.
 
Bhuban
 
 


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