C'da,

> But what are the RELIGIONS doing to help resolve the religious
> conflicts? What are the LEADERS of the nation doing to douse the
> effects of religious intolerance and religion based political demands
> ? Who are fanning the fires of anti-secularist emotions? 

I agree. The problem seems to be that each religious, ethinic, caste,
language group bring their own sets of problems to the table, with
absolutely no thought for other groups. In doing so, they seem to be
re-defining secularism, to mean that if their wants are satisfied,
there is secularism, else there is discrimination. I would sqarely
blame all such groups, whether they represent the majority or the
minority. None of them seem to be working toward a common goal, that
would benefit all in the long run.

>And what is  the alternative to the secular state?

There is none. Unfortunately, in India (or even in the net), the
definition for secularism means different things to different people.
IMHO: It shouldn't mean appeasing the minority, and nor should it mean
the majority can flount all rules.

>it is not those who find > fault in Indian pretenses to secularism
that are at the >root of  India's religious miseries:

There is no such pretense in India to secularism. Its individuals, be
it an RSS or someone from Bajrang dal. People like that are always on
the lookout to capitalize on the slightest opportunity to marginalize
the secular concept.

Plus, those who find fault with secularism in India, ARE NOT the root cause. 
All they are doing is look into every nook & crany on an endless fact?
finding mission. So, in essence, all they have to say is the system
ain't right, but have never tried nor offered any alternative
democratic solution.

There is no alternative to secularism. But how many are trying to strengthen it?

>It is those who indulge in religious  politics and their apologists.

I agree.

--Ram


On 6/14/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Also, for those of us seem to be continually finding
> >fault with secularism in India, would find the enormous difficulty the
> >Govt. faces trying to balance this 'majority rule and minority
> 
> 
> No doubt it is a difficult job.
> 
> But what are the RELIGIONS doing to help resolve the religious
> conflicts? What are the LEADERS of the nation doing to douse the
> effects of religious intolerance and religion based political demands
> ? Who are fanning the fires of anti-secularist emotions? And what is
> the alternative to the secular state?
> 
> Finally, just in case it was not obvious, it is not those who find
> fault in Indian pretenses to secularism that are at the root of
> India's religious miseries: It is those who indulge in religious
> politics and their apologists.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 8:03 AM -0500 6/14/05, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> >Thank you Bhuban da.
> >
> >>what is more I  find support for my own views on various matters as
> >expressed >from time to time in the net from this author.
> >
> >I feel the same. Also, for those of us seem to be continually finding
> >fault with secularism in India, would find the enormous difficulty the
> >Govt. faces trying to balance this 'majority rule and minority
> >rights'.
> >
> >--Ram
> >
> >
> >On 6/14/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>  Ram
> >>
> >>  I congratulate you for being able to find out  an  excellent dissertation
> >>  like this covering comprehensibly such issues as minorities, reserved
> >>  constituencies, employment, personal laws, Kashmir, etc and what is more I
> >>  find support for my own views on various matters as expressed from time to
> >>  time in the net from this author.
> >>
> >>  Thanks.
> >>
> >>   Bhuban
> >
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